Thank God … Seems as if Zee Tv officials read this blog and peoples comments … Finally the format has been changed … Ekalva gharana has been eliminated and girls and boys are being judged together …
Although I think in a previous episode, one girl from manchester was not picked by Pritam saying that the other girl “would be better in the long run”. I still think the manchester girl was much better … Another girl who was eliminated was probably from singapore who sang Pritam’s song ” mere dholna sun, mere pyar ki dhun”. I think both these girls deserved to be in the competition right now and were sacrificed due to the previous poor format …
Today’s decision seem fair … Tarun has got a great voice and great texture but technically was not able to compete with the other contestants ….
Similar case is with Jenice … she has a USP but Sur comes first and with a better riaz, her western vocalisation can be an asset in the indian music industry.
I believe the next one to go from this group will probably be the mother from delhi. she has got a sweet voice but then again “sur is the king”.
I hope that zee is going to merge the 2 groups together very soon, because the same situation will happen if we keep on judging singers in two separate groups. The bottom 2 in one group might be better than the ’safe’ singers in the other group.
Yeah, i completely agree with Jamshid, Rashi from UK should be brought back. She sang that ‘mere dholna’ song brilliantly. I still have doubts about the Eklavya gharana though.. r they eliminated??
By the way, i enjoyed Shashi’s performance the most today and think the Sangeet Chakra should have been awarded to him… again.. its my point of view..
I have been thinking to send an email to Zee TV for combining both girls and boys for elimination.
Now a days who is less or more. Every one is equal.
all to be considered for elimination.
Regard to Tarun, I feel he learned his lesson.
Every one has tensions,personal problems etc.
Person should over come that and compete.
fighting capabilities to be developed.
He got good oppurtunity, if he wins this
he would have over come all his problems.
Hope to see him back by Brahmastra…
he has good voice and good attitude. But his
careless ness paid him.
If he focuses, noone can stop him.
Yes I feel the same way about Debojit. He is good but his pronounciation is really bad compared to the other contestants.Glad that someone else in this forum finally noticed.
I have not watched the show, but I am not surprised that Jenny is out. I feel that many of the girl contestants will be out …especially the ones that normally sing “hindi+english” songs + the girl who constantly talks about her mother in law.
Yes, I have also noticed the pronunciation thing about Debojit, if i am not wrong, when he pronounces ‘Sa’ like take the word ‘kasam’ and there his sound ’sa’ is little different than the usual sound. Also, like ‘ho ke juda kyon tu mujhe aazama ne lagi hai’ in this line, that ‘za’ sound is also different..
A lot of people have pronounciation issues if hindi is not their mother tongue.
Look at the positive sides. If you try to criticize you can find fault with everybody!
These are not professional singers for god’s sake!
If any of the contestants are going to make it to the finals and for studio recording…pronounciation is essential. Watch any other contest …surely you and others may have noticed that the judges empashize on the importance of pronounciation in MUSIC.
The SRGMPA contest is all about picking the BEST contestant. Get that into your system.
Yes Ms. know all Harjeet,
You are always right. I don’t find Debojit to be way out in pronounciation.
There are a lot of singers in the industry who have worse pronounciation and accent
thanxs GOD that the format has been changed and we got rid of those golden keys and in and out things as well as sanjeevni bootis.lets face the music now.one who sings best should emerge winner.no indian pakistani thing now please.for me all of them are worthy for even reaching that platform.so lets pray that from now onwards saregapa rocks for good
I don’t why several of the male contestants were so nervous (i.e Tarun, Sashi, Faraz, even Shujaat) in today’s episode. I think they were nervous because they were being judged by the great Ghulam Ali Saab and fabulous SureshWadker Ji.
Tarun is a good singer, WOW he was really a nervous wreck. I hope Matarani will show him the right path in his LIfe …he seems like a really nice kid. I’m glad that Shankar ji has offered him to sing …
BTW I felt that RohanPreet sang Rabbi Shergill’s song better than Faraz.
Faraz is a fantastic singer. I’m glad he’s through for the next round Balle balle balle
1. S. P. Balasubramaniam
while he concedes that his accent and diction in Hindi are not perfect, insists that accent is secondary to singing within the context of the proper emotions required of the lyrics and moods.
2.Hariharan… himself admitted that he has accent problems in hindi and had to rehearse quite a number of times to get them corrected.
3.Bonnie Chakraborty, the one-time lead singer of Bangla band Krosswinds
his song Azeem–shaan in Jodhaa Akbar became a scorching hit and he can’t even speak a liine of hindi!
4.Shreya Ghoshal in Cheene Kum ( but then she is not at all a good singer isn’t it?)
5.Unni Krishnan, Swarnalatha, Harini etc all introduced by A R Rehman.
I can go on and on.
If we pronunciation freaks have our way, such artistes would be mercilessly flogged, or
would be made to hold lighted camphor for every mistake a la the movie..
And Lataji, Ashaji, Rafi Saab, Kishore ji could not have sung in so many different languages!
I agree with those who agree to the fact that Dibojit has a pronunciation problem. Now about the lead singer of Bangla band, if he pronounced correctly than there would’nt be any objection but in 4 or 5 songs if singer makes or repeats the same mistake then I am sure it will be very boring to hear him.
I liked last year contestants better. Like Amanat Ali, Raja, Anik, Poonam. But this year I personally think that all the contentestants are mediocre.
Anyways, thanks to admin for posting the show!
Aditiya you have to wear some cool cloths, simple but with some professional colors .. u look totally
like a clown with those pinki, purple, glittery costumes.
I hate the stage design and clothing designs .. but the music show and singers are all fantastic
i agree he might be having pronunciation problem but he sings so well that i dont want to take credit away from the young lad from banglore.i still remember his gangster song performance.that song from james is one of my all time favourites,and he sang it so well.i also agree with harjeet on faraz butt.he sung so well in earlier part of the competition but is too nervous now.sashi will be a challange in the latter stages for all the competitors.i feel for tarun,he is a very good singer and a humble human.i wish he is called back.jenice did injustice to herself(like faraz).it will be interesting to watch todays performances
After listening to debojit song, i think its not the pronunciation connected with the mother tongue but he has a lisp in his conversation. Anyone from any language may have this problem and that can be cured by training and proper coaching.
When he sings “mausam hai aashiqana, uss pe yeh sharmana” the ‘S’ sound in ‘masuam’ and and ‘uss’ doesnt come out as an S but a Z.
Listen to him on the link below (middle of the video)
debojit is a very good singer and sings from his heart….
one thing which has been missed from a week ago..the judges missed it…shashi was singing by reading from his hand!!! and when tarun did it…they showed a clip where by it was blatant…double standards i think…
faraz has potentialto win..debojit too but i feel himesh will play with his mind to make him lose…by always saying “i hope you win” …and then near the end…do something to mess it up for him!
could anybody tell me now whats the new format?we lost four contestants in one week.if this is the format then it will take four weeks from now on to decide the winner.even two in the week could have made sense but four???????????i still wonder what they are upto?the world cup is on,the umpires are behaving like sas and bahu episode with one another.and the rules are made every week according to the situation and moods of the umpires.wow.what a world cup!sayan is a wonderful singer and my heart felt heavy for the poor soul.lets see who 4 unlucky will fall next week.i think they want to end the world cup in one month.
Hi please post about sayan..really the last week show made me lot of disappointment for selecting him to eliminate, i love his voice..really his 2 previous songs were superb..great voice..i dont wanna see his elimination..
Hi aamir i too confused the changing rules every week, you are right it depends on judges mood and situation..different opinions..its looks very strange for not talking with one another judges..by the way thanks for supporting poor sayan..i really very much excited and anxious to see him on stage..
@Harjeet,
Who is comparing SPB with Debojit?
I said before that a lot of professional singers have problems with hindi. You asked for some examples and I provided you with a few.
And you are manipulatng it as a comparison?
You are one hell of a sick lady!
dr. aamir, you have to realize this is india. there are no rules here. just kidding, i am happy with eliminations so far and want gurus to continue to have power. audiences don’t know how to pick otherwise that monkey aneek would never have won, raja or amanat would have won. but it doesn’t matter cause the monkey has no films to sing for and raja and amanat are busy. lol, btw why do you spell your name with 2 aa’s?
@Harjeet,
Are you really stupid?
Yes I said that a lot of professional singers have problems with hindi prounciations.
You asked for proof and I gave you proof.
You then accused me of comparing them with Debojit!
I guess you both are right. I agree with Harjeet that Debojit does have a bit of pronounciation problem.
I also agree with Rajdeep that many non-hindi speaking singers have this problem in the beginning of their career but they recitfy it over a period of time. I think Debojit’s problem can also be improved through training.
That may not be the criteria for his elimination in the initial rounds. However towards the final rounds(provided he survives) I am sure every aspect will be considered. If he doesn’t improve by then, then there could problems.
“Yes I said that a lot of professional singers have problems with hindi prounciations”.
If that’s the case tell me the names of the singers (the punjabis) on other non-punjabi singers on the SRGMPA show that have problems with Hindi pronounciation
First most of you were saying that the contestants shouldn’t be allowed to sing Punjabi songs….now u say that they ‘a lot of professional singers have problems with hindi prounciations’…maybe they shouldn’t sing Hindi songs in the first place.
Don’t kid yourself….
Rajdeep
Remember…you mentioned that contestants should Sing Bhajans…you think that the punjabi contestants can’t compete (i.e. singing bhajans) ….ha ha ha
by the way which planet are you from.
Come to think of it you are the one that’s really STUPID here.
The punjabis from Pakistan speak punjabi 24-7 and yet they sing hindi songs exceptionally well (So far I doubt any of them have any pronounciation problems in Hindi).
The Indians on the other hand, speak Hindi all the time (bare in mind Hindi is the national language in India)and yet SOME of the contestant can’t even do justice to a hindi song. It should be a flawless performance.
There’s nothing wrong with Debojit’s languange, he just needs to consult a speech therapist. It’s not a languange problem. I agree with Jamshid’s explanation.
Aapas mey jhagda mat karo yaar. Follow the the slogan “Ham sab ek hai”.
We fight among ourselves…that’s why we are still “developing countries”….we can never excell and a dumb guy like Bush tries to take advantage of this to rule our countries.
Tarun Sagar is a talented singer.. I hope he comes back in call back episode…
Thank God … Seems as if Zee Tv officials read this blog and peoples comments … Finally the format has been changed … Ekalva gharana has been eliminated and girls and boys are being judged together …
Although I think in a previous episode, one girl from manchester was not picked by Pritam saying that the other girl “would be better in the long run”. I still think the manchester girl was much better … Another girl who was eliminated was probably from singapore who sang Pritam’s song ” mere dholna sun, mere pyar ki dhun”. I think both these girls deserved to be in the competition right now and were sacrificed due to the previous poor format …
Today’s decision seem fair … Tarun has got a great voice and great texture but technically was not able to compete with the other contestants ….
Similar case is with Jenice … she has a USP but Sur comes first and with a better riaz, her western vocalisation can be an asset in the indian music industry.
I believe the next one to go from this group will probably be the mother from delhi. she has got a sweet voice but then again “sur is the king”.
I hope that zee is going to merge the 2 groups together very soon, because the same situation will happen if we keep on judging singers in two separate groups. The bottom 2 in one group might be better than the ’safe’ singers in the other group.
Looking forward to tomorrow’s episode.
Jamshid.
Yeah, i completely agree with Jamshid, Rashi from UK should be brought back. She sang that ‘mere dholna’ song brilliantly. I still have doubts about the Eklavya gharana though.. r they eliminated??
By the way, i enjoyed Shashi’s performance the most today and think the Sangeet Chakra should have been awarded to him… again.. its my point of view..
Lets see how it goes tomorrow…
-Anuya
Finally the format has been changed.
I have been thinking to send an email to Zee TV for combining both girls and boys for elimination.
Now a days who is less or more. Every one is equal.
all to be considered for elimination.
Regard to Tarun, I feel he learned his lesson.
Every one has tensions,personal problems etc.
Person should over come that and compete.
fighting capabilities to be developed.
He got good oppurtunity, if he wins this
he would have over come all his problems.
Hope to see him back by Brahmastra…
he has good voice and good attitude. But his
careless ness paid him.
If he focuses, noone can stop him.
Yashpal sang very well.If we hear baar baar feel like hearing..so cool and consistant and tempo was consistant.
But I feel finally Shahsi may steal the show slowly I guess
based on his versatality, sangeet knowledge etc.
I think Debojit has issue of pronounciation I feel..
@Raghu
Yes I feel the same way about Debojit. He is good but his pronounciation is really bad compared to the other contestants.Glad that someone else in this forum finally noticed.
I have not watched the show, but I am not surprised that Jenny is out. I feel that many of the girl contestants will be out …especially the ones that normally sing “hindi+english” songs + the girl who constantly talks about her mother in law.
The guys are way much better.
Yes, I have also noticed the pronunciation thing about Debojit, if i am not wrong, when he pronounces ‘Sa’ like take the word ‘kasam’ and there his sound ’sa’ is little different than the usual sound. Also, like ‘ho ke juda kyon tu mujhe aazama ne lagi hai’ in this line, that ‘za’ sound is also different..
A lot of people have pronounciation issues if hindi is not their mother tongue.
Look at the positive sides. If you try to criticize you can find fault with everybody!
These are not professional singers for god’s sake!
@music_lover
If any of the contestants are going to make it to the finals and for studio recording…pronounciation is essential. Watch any other contest …surely you and others may have noticed that the judges empashize on the importance of pronounciation in MUSIC.
The SRGMPA contest is all about picking the BEST contestant. Get that into your system.
Yes Ms. know all Harjeet,
You are always right. I don’t find Debojit to be way out in pronounciation.
There are a lot of singers in the industry who have worse pronounciation and accent
thanxs GOD that the format has been changed and we got rid of those golden keys and in and out things as well as sanjeevni bootis.lets face the music now.one who sings best should emerge winner.no indian pakistani thing now please.for me all of them are worthy for even reaching that platform.so lets pray that from now onwards saregapa rocks for good
music_lover
Please name them. I have to know
Music_lover
“A lot of people have pronounciation issues if hindi is not their mother tongue”
Rabba, if thats the case then the contestants whose mother tounge is Punjabi are in real trouble …Hai kai NEE
Music_lover
NO offence BRO
Sorry but your justification doesn’t make any sense to ME.
are the contestants in Eklavya eleminated???????reply
Come to think of it Yashita reminds me of the female singer (can’t remember her name) who sang RamTa Jogi with Sukwinder Ji.
They even look alike.
I don’t why several of the male contestants were so nervous (i.e Tarun, Sashi, Faraz, even Shujaat) in today’s episode. I think they were nervous because they were being judged by the great Ghulam Ali Saab and fabulous SureshWadker Ji.
Tarun is a good singer, WOW he was really a nervous wreck. I hope Matarani will show him the right path in his LIfe …he seems like a really nice kid. I’m glad that Shankar ji has offered him to sing …
BTW I felt that RohanPreet sang Rabbi Shergill’s song better than Faraz.
Faraz is a fantastic singer. I’m glad he’s through for the next round
Balle balle balle
@Harjeet…
1. S. P. Balasubramaniam
while he concedes that his accent and diction in Hindi are not perfect, insists that accent is secondary to singing within the context of the proper emotions required of the lyrics and moods.
2.Hariharan… himself admitted that he has accent problems in hindi and had to rehearse quite a number of times to get them corrected.
3.Bonnie Chakraborty, the one-time lead singer of Bangla band Krosswinds
his song Azeem–shaan in Jodhaa Akbar became a scorching hit and he can’t even speak a liine of hindi!
4.Shreya Ghoshal in Cheene Kum ( but then she is not at all a good singer isn’t it?)
5.Unni Krishnan, Swarnalatha, Harini etc all introduced by A R Rehman.
I can go on and on.
If we pronunciation freaks have our way, such artistes would be mercilessly flogged, or
would be made to hold lighted camphor for every mistake a la the movie..
And Lataji, Ashaji, Rafi Saab, Kishore ji could not have sung in so many different languages!
I agree with those who agree to the fact that Dibojit has a pronunciation problem. Now about the lead singer of Bangla band, if he pronounced correctly than there would’nt be any objection but in 4 or 5 songs if singer makes or repeats the same mistake then I am sure it will be very boring to hear him.
I liked last year contestants better. Like Amanat Ali, Raja, Anik, Poonam. But this year I personally think that all the contentestants are mediocre.
Anyways, thanks to admin for posting the show!
Aditiya you have to wear some cool cloths, simple but with some professional colors .. u look totally
like a clown with those pinki, purple, glittery costumes.
I hate the stage design and clothing designs .. but the music show and singers are all fantastic
I do believe that Debojit has a pronunciation problem but the fact that he sings so flawlessly, more than covers his language issues.
i agree he might be having pronunciation problem but he sings so well that i dont want to take credit away from the young lad from banglore.i still remember his gangster song performance.that song from james is one of my all time favourites,and he sang it so well.i also agree with harjeet on faraz butt.he sung so well in earlier part of the competition but is too nervous now.sashi will be a challange in the latter stages for all the competitors.i feel for tarun,he is a very good singer and a humble human.i wish he is called back.jenice did injustice to herself(like faraz).it will be interesting to watch todays performances
After listening to debojit song, i think its not the pronunciation connected with the mother tongue but he has a lisp in his conversation. Anyone from any language may have this problem and that can be cured by training and proper coaching.
When he sings “mausam hai aashiqana, uss pe yeh sharmana” the ‘S’ sound in ‘masuam’ and and ‘uss’ doesnt come out as an S but a Z.
Listen to him on the link below (middle of the video)
http://saregamapashow.com/2008/08/saregamapa-2009-videos-22nd-august-episode.html/3
If you listen him sing, the only place where he doesnt sound correct is when singing an S sound.
In the encore performance, Aditya sings with him and covers the S sound.
Sorry … correction is my previous post … lisping is not converting S to Z, but according to http://www.answers.com the definition of lisp is ….
A speech defect or mannerism characterized by mispronunciation of the sounds (s) and (z) as (th) and (th).
so the words ‘mausam’, ‘mastana’ and ‘uss’ were pronounced as a ‘th’ by Dobojit.
listen ppl,
debojit is a very good singer and sings from his heart….
one thing which has been missed from a week ago..the judges missed it…shashi was singing by reading from his hand!!! and when tarun did it…they showed a clip where by it was blatant…double standards i think…
faraz has potentialto win..debojit too but i feel himesh will play with his mind to make him lose…by always saying “i hope you win” …and then near the end…do something to mess it up for him!
could anybody tell me now whats the new format?we lost four contestants in one week.if this is the format then it will take four weeks from now on to decide the winner.even two in the week could have made sense but four???????????i still wonder what they are upto?the world cup is on,the umpires are behaving like sas and bahu episode with one another.and the rules are made every week according to the situation and moods of the umpires.wow.what a world cup!sayan is a wonderful singer and my heart felt heavy for the poor soul.lets see who 4 unlucky will fall next week.i think they want to end the world cup in one month.
Hi an one can tell me where is sayan..is he eliminated or still in the race..i am waiting for his turn today but he didt appear..
Hi please post about sayan..really the last week show made me lot of disappointment for selecting him to eliminate, i love his voice..really his 2 previous songs were superb..great voice..i dont wanna see his elimination..
Hi aamir i too confused the changing rules every week, you are right it depends on judges mood and situation..different opinions..its looks very strange for not talking with one another judges..by the way thanks for supporting poor sayan..i really very much excited and anxious to see him on stage..
@music_lover
Please Don’t compare Debojit to S. P. Balasubramaniam, he’s one of the best classical singers from the South.
BTW is “Kohli” is bengali, gurati, punjabi or ….surname?
BTW is “Kohli” a bengali, gurati, punjabi or …surname?
P.S Please don’t give me smart answers…
I know ‘Kohli’ means chicken in TAMIL.
OMG
Don’t you think YashitaYash looks a lot like the actress Kushboo
@Harjeet,
Who is comparing SPB with Debojit?
I said before that a lot of professional singers have problems with hindi. You asked for some examples and I provided you with a few.
And you are manipulatng it as a comparison?
You are one hell of a sick lady!
dr. aamir, you have to realize this is india. there are no rules here. just kidding, i am happy with eliminations so far and want gurus to continue to have power. audiences don’t know how to pick otherwise that monkey aneek would never have won, raja or amanat would have won. but it doesn’t matter cause the monkey has no films to sing for and raja and amanat are busy. lol, btw why do you spell your name with 2 aa’s?
harjeet! you don’t know kohli is a punjabi hindu name?!?!? how the hell can u not know that considering you are punjabi? oh well…
Faroon Irani
I’m born and raised overseas. Not many punjabis here.
I really don’t know, that’s why I asked
Rajdeep
You are music_lover
Ur sick in the HEAD
Faroon there Sikhs and Muslims with the Kohli surname as well…don’t act smart. I checked Wikipedia
Rajdeep/music_lover
Stop behaving a like sore Loser all the time
P.S. You said before that a lot of professional singers have problems with pronounciation.
Don’t act smart
@Harjeet,
Are you really stupid?
Yes I said that a lot of professional singers have problems with hindi prounciations.
You asked for proof and I gave you proof.
You then accused me of comparing them with Debojit!
God! You don’t even understand simple english!
Rajdeep and Harjeet
I guess you both are right. I agree with Harjeet that Debojit does have a bit of pronounciation problem.
I also agree with Rajdeep that many non-hindi speaking singers have this problem in the beginning of their career but they recitfy it over a period of time. I think Debojit’s problem can also be improved through training.
That may not be the criteria for his elimination in the initial rounds. However towards the final rounds(provided he survives) I am sure every aspect will be considered. If he doesn’t improve by then, then there could problems.
Debojit and others like him just needs to consult a speech therapist.
It’s got nothing to do with languange.
Rajdeep
Don’t talk crap all the time
Don’t kid yourself by thinking that I’m stupid.
I’ve never labeled stupid in my entire Life.
Dr. Harjeet
Doctorate in what? Stupidity?
When you don’t know what you are writing but still want to argue then you have to face the music!
“Yes I said that a lot of professional singers have problems with hindi prounciations”.
If that’s the case tell me the names of the singers (the punjabis) on other non-punjabi singers on the SRGMPA show that have problems with Hindi pronounciation
First most of you were saying that the contestants shouldn’t be allowed to sing Punjabi songs….now u say that they ‘a lot of professional singers have problems with hindi prounciations’…maybe they shouldn’t sing Hindi songs in the first place.
Don’t kid yourself….
Rajdeep
Remember…you mentioned that contestants should Sing Bhajans…you think that the punjabi contestants can’t compete (i.e. singing bhajans) ….ha ha ha
by the way which planet are you from.
Come to think of it you are the one that’s really STUPID here.
@Rajdeep
The punjabis from Pakistan speak punjabi 24-7 and yet they sing hindi songs exceptionally well (So far I doubt any of them have any pronounciation problems in Hindi).
The Indians on the other hand, speak Hindi all the time (bare in mind Hindi is the national language in India)and yet SOME of the contestant can’t even do justice to a hindi song. It should be a flawless performance.
There’s nothing wrong with Debojit’s languange, he just needs to consult a speech therapist. It’s not a languange problem. I agree with Jamshid’s explanation.
Harjeet and Rajdeep,
Aapas mey jhagda mat karo yaar. Follow the the slogan “Ham sab ek hai”.
We fight among ourselves…that’s why we are still “developing countries”….we can never excell and a dumb guy like Bush tries to take advantage of this to rule our countries.
Saregama
Ok I will take your advice.
I will end the war.
I don’t Rajdeep crying …he…he….he