"It’s obvious the votes were rigged" - Ismail Darbar
Ismail Darbar’s recent comments over Sa re ga ma pa Voting created chaos and put question mark on the reality shows. Unhappy with the results of the show the director has questioned the voting process and accused the channel of not playing fair.
Striking an off key note over the just concluded Sa Re Ga Ma Pa reality show Ismail Darbar has launched a scathing attack on the organisers of Indian television’s oldest reality show.
“The organisers have not played fair. The best singer was Amanat and Raja was the favourite. It’s obvious the votes were rigged.The counting process was not transparent. I am not happy with the results,” said Ismail Durbar.
But the organizers are not unduly bothered and say it is a case of sour grapes as the finalist from Durbar’s gharana Amaanat Ali did not win.
Controversies notwithstanding sky rocketing TRPs ensure that reality shows are money-spinners. But with allegations of reshooting to pump up action and rigging of public feedback by a judge at that the dividing line between reality and fiction has been blurred.
The Sa Re Ga Ma Pa Challenge 2007, has earned Zee TV close to Rs 120 crore from advertisements and sponsors for its 26 episodes, which is the highest revenue per episode collected by a reality show in the history of Indian television.
Hmmmmm….
Is this the first time ID is crying foul?
I remember last time in 2005 also ID was crying about votes all the time. This was when his contestant Debojit was winning all this time.
Conspiracy theories aside, its a bit disgusting and exposes the character of Bollywood. People going to the news channels to get more exposure(+ve or -ve) at the drop of a hat. If he has proof, he should be going to the courts. Else, he will get his pants sued for defamation.
-a musing.
It is a anti-Aneek site. Really no use of posting some comment on ID. But I am a fool.
Anyway if he really wanted to protest wrong thing he could have done that in 2005. When Debojit beat singers like Hemachandra, Himani, Vinit. He is very clever and he does politics. HR is a fool that’s why he is criticized more.
There is no point in such allegation. ID have to prove it otherwise it is just a publicity stunt or something else. May be community feelings.
Amanat has some edge in Gazal and sufi songs. It does not mean he is best singer. There are other genres also. Others are better in that.
Finally ID have to prove his point. If he can’t. Just shut up. Really I would like to see what he does in industry. Uski apni existence nahi ha industry me. Itne salo se 8 ya 10 filmo me music diya ha, jinme se hit 3 ya 4 ha. Bari bari bate. Apni nahi chali to dusro pe ilzam lad do. Very cheap mentality. Sale tujhme dum ha to prove kar barna mu mein ungli dal le.
Koi jeeta ha. Uski jeet ko chota dikhana. Bahat nicha soch ha. Faltu allegation. Kue ki mendak. Apne charo taraf do char admi se puchke samaj gaya Raja favourite ha!
From column,
It has been bothering me for a while on why Ismail Darbar would go against Zee Television, Saregamapa, Aneek Dhar and of course his best friend Himesh Reshammiya. What really was Ismail Darbar’s motive in coming out with the fixing allegations against Zee TV and organisers of Saregamapa?
How could Ismail go against Himesh - the very man on whom Ismail’s lucrative T-series album hinges on?
It took us a little time to figure it out. Jugal Bajaj has significantly worked on this story - but we finally have the real Ismail motive.
As I already mentioned earlier, Ismail and Himesh are hand-in-glove. And Ismail has been speaking on Himesh’s behalf. And in the process, they have come out with the truth - that the Saregamapa results were fixed. Aneek fans, it is sad that your own guru has ditched you.
So, what exactly do Ismail and Himesh want? It’s simple. They simply want to ruin Saregamapa Lil Champs that should commence this week. And why? Because Sonu Nigam will be a judge on it. Himesh and Sonu Nigam’s rivalry is well documented. When Himesh bought critic Subhash K. Jha to criticise Sonu Nigam in his articles, Sonu ruined Jha’s reputation forever by exposing his homosexual advances. And everyone knows how Himesh always send hecklers to Sonu Nigam’s shows to ruin performances. Himesh is using Ismail to do the same act again - to sabotage Lil Champs. And this time, it is Ismail Darbar who has been sent across as the heckler.
Such manipulators, that they have sacrificed Aneek Dhar in the process. And of course, for us Raja Hasan fans, they at least brought out the truth that Raja was the real winner.
But why so much of fury from Himesh and Ismail against Zee? One, both simply detest both Sonu Nigam and the other judge Pritam. And two, both Himesh and Ismail will never again be invited for Saregamapa. What went wrong? Well it is on the insistance of Munjals from Hero Honda. Brijmohan Lall Munjal, CMD of Honda Motors has made his displeasure very clear that Hero Honda will no longer sponsor Saregamapa if either Himesh or Ismail are on the show. This was after all that furore when Sumedha was treated cheaply on the show. Promptly, Sumedha was eliminated and the love story never mentioned on Saregamapa again. But the real insult to Zee was when Brijmohan Lall Munjal refused to participate in the Grand Finale. In fact there was a directive from the Munjals that NOBODY from Hero Honda will be represented in the final show. A sharp contrast from last time when Brijmohan Lall Munjal was there to present the trophy to Debojit in 2005. Zee could only manage Puneet Goenka, Subhas Chandra’s son to do the honours.
The Hero Honda directive is clear - if you want our money, throw out Himesh and Ismail. And keep the show clear of sleaze. It does the Hero Honda brand a lot of damage. Zee had little choice but to dump Himesh and Ismail from all future shows. And when SOnu Nigam was brought in to rub in the salt, Himesh had to fire one back at Zee. And Ismail is doing the talking for him.
So where does that leave Raja in all this? One, Raja has to stay out of all this politics. He has to remain at his diplomatic best, by not taking sides, not questioning anybody - not even commenting on the rigging that Zee has indulged in. The saregamapa title is no longer important. A rigged show isn’t worth worth participating - forget winning. Raja has a bright future - and he shouldn’t ruin things by taking any sides. Just call it destiny as he always did - and get on with the job. And for some reason, if Zee doesn’t take you to the world tour - even better.
Remember, it is critical for Raja now to keep quiet. The politics will go on. The media will catch up with the stories. Star News will go on an assault - calling Saregamapa a rigged show while projecting its Voice of India, as the fair show. Meanwhile, Raja needs to do nothing. He simply has to keep out of the dirty games being played. That’s the best for his future.
aaj ke gujarat samachar main voting ki dhandhli ke bare main diya hai..Raja ke vote sabse jyda the par Zee tv walo ne hera phera karke Anik ko jita diya hai..iska virodh karna chahya.aur Zee tv walo ke khilaf Action Lena chahiye
gaffar ji
pl take a chill pill
my question was completely unrelatedt to the results of this show
it was somethng i was curious about , since i know pak tv channels cannt be subscribed to in india( correct folks living in india?)
to make an innocent ques part of a conspiracy theory is overreaction
nehow, we have known even since mussarat was eliminated that this a big tamasha..
why did ppl get soo emotionally invested is beyond me..all this tu tu mein mein is a bit much
if ID has proof come out with it man, otherwise he will be another windbag like him-ass besharmia , making outrageous statements for effect
whateva
hope bappi aunty, him-ass and ID never become judges again..ever ever..
i think we shudn’t be fighting. the votes were messed up with. my cousin was trying to vote from pakistan in lahore but he cudn’t ( i live in dubai and even i did message a lot of times for amanat but not everytime i got the confirmation which was weird)
what i think is that we public shud just relax and not blame each other for the win and loss. Aneek is a good singer in a few years his voice will groom and he may make a mark.
Amanat u r a shehzada…i love you buddy…..i have seen ur video clippings where u r with aneek and junaid and harpreet…you sure are a shugali banda…i liked that….
pakistan will INSALLAH very soon be a highly coveted platform for our country’s upcoming singers.
Ismail is such a sick person…he sries all the time…last year when Debojit was leading all of a sudden he did not ever said that Veneet was better then debojit…but this time during the show he said many times that Aneek is so good but look at him now… really funny …he is not able to take the defeat….OMG!
Ismail is mentally sick. A person with opinion of his own. In whole show he simply said what Himesh said. This bloody fellow has no brain of his own. An illiterate person with real sick mentality. He is a stupid and foolish who even doesn’t know what he was saying in whole show and what the hell he is saying now. One song wounder considers himself music icon of India.
I wonder whom Zee will approach for next challenge bcoz as I read in sm above forum Hero honda has gone against ID and HR and VS also had stated smwer tht they are not interested in returning to the show……anyways if i m not wrong Ismail ji ne hi Aneek ki sabse jyada tarif ki hai hamesha se…then y all of a sudden hes against him and his old frnd HR???
Its funny how Aneek supporters are bashing Ismail jee and calling him names. Why bash him when he expressed his own opinion about the voting process.
Do you think it is fair to call it a WORLD CUP of SINGERS when you do not allow people from other countries to vote for their fav contestants? Why was it easy and really cheap to vote from India and why people from North America were charged 99 cents per SMS? Why people from Pakistan were not allowed to vote for Amanat(not even for the Grand Finale ?) Why there were different results in International voting and Indian voting ? (Amanat was first in International and Last in Indian voting).
If it was all fair, there would have been a different winner and it would have been Amanat and he would have won the competition by a huge margin. And all this would have resulted in a serious problem for Zee tv, as they would have lost huge number of viewers from India for obvious reasons.
I personally do not think that there voting was rigged but the voting restrictions and system played a big role in changing the outcome of this show.
I don’t understand all this brouhaha. Is it that the selection was not “fair”? Would it have been OK if Zee TV had announced previously that their executives would pick the winner? What’s fair about a system that allows everyone to vote any number of times?
The only reason they allowed viewer voting was as a marketing gimmick - it’s to make us believe that we have a stake in the ongoing drama, that we can influence the outcome, whereas in reality no one knows how much each singer is liked (very different than any made up number of votes). For all we know, ZeeTV may even have guesstimated the internet votes. I say that’s as “fair” as any other method.
I’d say people who spent money SMSing their votes have something to complain about. The rest of us, gaming the system, with made up email addresses and multiple votes got taken in just as we deserved.
Zee just showed us they are smarter:)
Gosh, no wonder I left SA RE DRAMA PA after Mussarat was eliminated. The show, the gossip world, the blogs, they all stink now.
$hashi, have fun bro, you made it big with the site and I say it was worth it. Now it is time to move on to something else.
Senty, 0.02, and others, you guys made it fun here while it lasted. Thanks for all the wonderful and rare links to beautiful music, I have bookmarked them all, hopefully I will keep in touch at some other location or if Indian TV produces another but better musical show in the future.
I thtink its the luck of amanat that he has not own! Now he does not has to run behind playbacking hindi film….he has more valuable jobs to do….walk on your own way Amanat….make the people proud of you as like as we are proud to be have singers like Nusrat Fateh Ali or Jagjit Sing. Be a legend man…not a fame hunter indian playback singer
All the best wishes for you.
For all of you who think Ishmail is being a sore loser let me ask you…then WHY would he say that Raja is the real winner of the show? That makes no sense!
Its obvious that the truth is now out….Zee and Himesh, as MANY of us suspected messed with the results…not shocking, but what is shockin is that ID actually came out public with it…
Now what is Zee gonna do? Well if they had any sense of Morality ( which they clearly dont) they would apologize to the public and declare RAJA the winner..WHICH HE IS!!! but of course they wont do that
@all Raja fans
VICTORY! OUR WINNER HAS BEEN DECLARED AND ALL THIS CHEATIN HAS BEEN BLOWN OUT OF THE WATER, JUST AS WE ALL SUSPECTED!
@Amanat fans
the fact that Pakistan votes were not counted is beyond a shame…I would be pissed as well…all these people voted for Amanat and they werent even considered
@Aneek fans
Im sorry that Aneek got stuck in the middle of all this drama…not too sorry though because he still took the money and contract that as far as we know now actually belongs to Raja…
in ending: SHAME ON ZEE!! Remember, karma is gonna come bak at bite u in the behind!
I HOPE THIS NEWS CONTINUES TO BE FIRED UP BECAUSE I WANT ZEE TO BE CORNERED AND FEEL PRESSURED…I DONT WANT TO LET THEM OFF THE HOOK!
Folks,
Aneek wins, Himesh loses
Have a look at this link:
http://www.rediff.com/movies/2007/oct/16aneek.htm
Cutiepie,
Zee is hand in glove with Rediff in the whole process. Zee outsourced its online voting process to be handled by rediff and I suspect the overall vote counting as well.
Now, whatever zee wants to communicate to the public, it is doing it through rediff. Obviously, zee can’t be seen criticizing Himesh directly for his actions during the show as the obvious point would arise that Zee should have stopped Himesh during the show and not complain about him now. So, they are using Rediff.
You can check this link:
http://www.rediff.com/movies/2007/oct/16aneek.htm
@truth
Well if Rediff is in on it as well, then i guess I will have to say Shame on them if they were involved in this scandal. I know i voted myself (maybe being naive that they would actually count) and now i get mad thinkin about all the time i wasted!) its really disheartening….
Yes I am aware Zee does not have the guts and is too smart to reprimand Himesh in public…
However if I were them I would figure out a way to regain some respect by recongnizing Raja and Amanat….because honestly its not lookin good for Zee…and u know other stations like Star and Sony will try to blow this up as much as possible (which THEY SHOULD, and i ENCOURAGE!)
@jmkegeo
dont worry, people are already pursuing this both here in the USA and bak in India…I do feel that Zee should somehow be taught a lesson. Again I am nobody to pass judgment because i dont know the whole truth either but what I do know is that they all played VERY dirty and that makes me very angry and quite disappointed that this TV channel is representing India worldwide…
I do truely hope that this situation continues to burn and not just die out.
Again, just remember Karma will haunt all those involved
I wish Raja and Amanat Luck, and honestly the only one who looks bad in this whole situation in Aneek, and again thats karma baby.
The universe works in mysterious ways…
~CP from NY and a true Raja fan =)
I read a few of the above comments and it was very disturb. I did not have the patience to read them all, and I am not going to come back to see who responds to my comment in what way, since the show is over anyway, so no need to start another blog brawl, and no point in bashing me if you don’t agree, coz I am not gonna check this again.
But I can tell you whoever is accusing Ismail Darbar of cheap tactics or whatever and doubting his music talent is probably just saying that in rage and not being serious, or I can at least hope so.
My favorite was Amanat, but I liked Aneek’s singing and Raja’s also. But the reason behind ID’s comment is only his fatherly love towards Amanat. After knowing that Pakistan’s votes were not coming in and most places in Pakistan did not get to see the show, it is quite obvious this was all rigged.
I feel bad for ID as he very naively joined the ever irritating and hateful Himesh Reshammiya in the love story crap and got screwed by Hero Honda guys. Basically, Himesh was the one who dragged Amanat into his stupid love game. For that matter, even Bappi Lahiri participated in it. The only set of judges that made no comment whatsoever on this love story thing was Vishal Shekhar, probably coz none of their contestants were dragged into this. and something tells me they are very professional and sensible, so even if it was one of their contestants they wouldnt have encouraged it.
I don’t see any reason why ID would hate Sonu Nigam, in fact he was one of the people who supported Sonu in his anti-Subhash K Jha comments.
Whoever says ID only made 8 movies and only 3 o 4 hits maybe right with their statistics, but ID is one of the most talented music directors of today. Unfortunately making business in Bollywood is not just about talent, which pretty much explains why Himesh is still being tolerated by masses.
I really feel for ID and Amanat. Aneek is indeed a great singer, I like him too, and Raja also is fabulous is his genre. Speaking of genres, Aneek, Amanat and Raja all have their specialties and genres.
Raja is good for AR Rehman’s voice kind songs, or Nusrat types,
Amanat is good for Kawwalis, Ghazals, and Sufi types also
Aneek is good for Sonu Nigam type, and light peppy songs.
All of them are good, and don’t deserve to be compared. But if it’s a game, it has to be fair, no matter what!
Hey Sriram,
ID has been know to crib before. Check last year’s(2005) programs, he is as bad as they come..
Frankly, he would have known any of these problems, if they were significant, much more before the grand finale. After accepting the results on the podium and making statements from the Bhagavad Gita like - Whatever happened was good and whatever will happen will also be good.
He looks very funny coming out with these kind of statements to the press. Not sparklingly funny like HR but close to it. I think all this is orchestrated by Zee to keep this alive and gain more mileage..In the show business, as they say, all publicity is good, whether its +ve or -ve.
@CutiePie,
Do not agonize over all this. The competition is over, unless someone files a petition, its all smoke and noise!!
You did what you felt is right, if you had not done it, you might have felt miserable for not doing it. If the world is bad.. so be it.
Truthsie girl,
You are hiding your brilliant, sparkling statements in your native tongue. Guess, you and Lahori Khachori (or was it Pakhodi?) are playing with each other ? Well kids, have a good time
and don’t do anything naughty.
@ALL RAJA AND AMANANT FANS
So here we go, for all those who thought nothing was getting done and people were just whining and talkin, well heres the petition…sign it and please do pass it on to everyone
http://www.petitiononline.com/Saregama/petition.html
PLEASE SIGN!!!!
Hi all-
i am pakistani and in now in USA. i just dont get one thing. Why people are kept on saying that pakistan has such and such population and they doid not vote for them..
this is not the point. i am sure pakistan will have great respect for them and they will earn good money from Pakistan.. they dont need india.. Amanat was winner in Dubai if all remember.. he could ev been popular either way..
but question arises now. did Indian population did juistice.. i mean all the mentors.. well u guys call them GURUS and i guess thats y they are at those places where only teachers can sit.. so if all of them said “BY FAR AMANAT IT IS THE BEST PERFORMANCE OF THE EVE” not once not twice so many times.. same thing with Mussart.. not once not twice so many times and then clearly HR said to RAJA that you should be guilty that Mussart is leaving cuz he performed lousy but still population kept him..
on top the best of all.. if no one had forgotten it by now the “!$ AUGUST/ 15 August” celeberation.. what happened.. oooooooooo let me remind every one .. all three poors PAKISTANI contestants were standing on the stage looking like they had commited some crime since 2 of three sung PAKISTANI PATRIOTIC song and oooooooo let me gues INDIAN JANTA could not take it.. and they voted all three of them for the bottom three..
i mean RAJA is very good no doubt.. Aneek is good no doubt.. but Amanat if all gurus saying he is the best with strong classical background then what is the prob..
and let me remind my fellows.. that people saying internation votes are not much apart.. TRUE.. BUT IT SHOWS THE DIFF.. i just mentioned all three are good and AMANAT Is best by little margin not much.. BUT IT IS REFLECTED under INTERNATIONAL votes..
Why u guys cant get it .. it is simple and plane english.. SOrry if i am rude.. but some people need to know it b4 putting weired comments…
comments will be welcomed..
thanks
Hi Folks!
Good to see all of having arguments about vote rigging. I haven’t watched Zee TV in ages but I found this show to be really amusing and entertaining. Apparently, there was nothing that can be seen as unfair and unjust but there were few instances that prompted me to think about the fairness of this show. Especially with great number of people complaining about not being able to vote from Pakistan. This was a big factor in the winning of the Aneek Dhar. I don’t see anything wrong with Aneek’s singing since he has got a strong singing ability but looking at the show fairly, it goes to show that Amanat and Raja both sang the most difficult songs.
One might think what makes a singer a true singer? I do not possess an in depth knowledge for music, but from a common person point of view, a good singer ought to be able to sing songs with difficult ” Surs”. Among all of the mega finalists only Amanat had this ability. I am not saying he is perfect and infact no one is or can be a perfect singer.
About ID comments, everyone has a right to speak up his mind. If he felt something suspicious, which became obvious as the show moved toward its end, it is his right to comment on that.
Aneek got more attention and praise from guests as compared to other contestants, which is very odd.
Now, a million dollar question. Who is going to find out truth about the transparecy of the show? In my opinion, NO ONE. Sponsors have made fortune. India itself doesn’t have capability to find out the truth due to limited resources and knowledge. But show organizers can do that at their own expense, which is highly doubtful.
In the end I would say, in the real world revolves around money and connections and not around nationalism. I think a person concerned about getting a 50 Mil contract would be least bothered about borders and viewers sentiments. So it was all a big money politic. No matter how big the controversy, will soon be subdued.
God Bless you All.
P.S. Please stop commenting on eachother’s language. This is not any of our’s first language. Please promote your own culture and language and come out of the influence British left behind.
I think you guys have too much extra time.
It was supposed to be fun.
I am sure next year again when there will be SRGMP 2008, you guys also will be there.
Now just chill.
it is very simple. Like all reality shows this was a fake show too.
@ cutiepie,& jmkegeo
I agree with you, very well said !!
RAJA IS THE WINNER,
Amanat we love u & God bless u!
Raja fans, have a look at this pic. You will love it.
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd151/yashweta/Saregamapa/Raja.jpg
Hi everybody!
I agree with Ismail Darbar but it is too late now. The whole show was manipulated. I did not follow all the episodes and yesterday I watched the episode in which Raja was dropped out and Amanat was promoted to next round.
The situation was very funny. He dedicated the song to the host and Oh my God he became so emotional and started crying. The judges also came on the stage and asked Raja to sing a song. What a emotionally exploited comeback of Raja……M..a…ni…pulaaaaaa…tion my friends!
Anyways! Thanks to the administrators of this website for providing the opportunity to watch the show. No matter what, if you guys upload the next saregamapa show………I will watch it again!!!!!!!!!
After all it is something about the MUSIC!!!!!!
@jmkegeo, anon, sweety, senty, sam, and all Mussarat fans,
Well, the finale left a bad taste and it was really anticlimax in so many ways. Rigging was done to everything of the final.
We in North America, were shown the “Rigged Live Show”. I watched this show just for the purpose of enjoyiong Mussarat & Poonum’s performances but ZEE-USA deprived us those precious moments by cutting Mussarat’s performance to few seconds. I was hoping $hashi will give us a chance to watch the full show but his postings are no different. Can anyone give the link to full performance of Mussarat in the finale??? I will be grateful.
As for vote rigging is concerned, it was obvious and I mentioned in some of my previous posts my concerns and reservations on the ZEE team’s antics. So I m not surprised at all at the final outcome.
Damage has been done to ZEE credibility by its “Creative team” for allowing too much cheap n crap to HR. ID is a bad loser as he showed in 2005 and here he has not done good to much of his own credibility by first joining forces with HR and then showing dissent in the end.
Now it will take a huge effort and time to bring back the credibility of ZEE SRGMP in future. I wish it could be brought back to the original format where only Mahagrus will be the judges till the final.
well offcource the voting was rigged…
Just go to Orkut and Community of Aneek and Raga…
You will find that there Fans are distributing a FREE piece of Software that will do Auto-voting for Aneek or Raga with Fake e-mail ID;s…
But you will not find this kind of software for Amanat.
Take a Chill Pill!
Aneek is a Sonu Nigam and Raja is Shukinder Singh’s CLONEs!
Amanat is orignal!
@Dear Ashraf,
I agree with u on most of the things u said and appreciate ur good work. I am a Pakistani, residing in calgary, canada. I can see that w/o support of Indian public it would not have been possible for Amanat to come so far. I would say, to be more appreciative to Indian people, that they did it mostly on the grounds of quality of singing rather than giving just a favor to pakistani singers. So hats off to India for their true love of music.
I also believe that even if the public voting system (which logically I don’t agree) has to stay there, its still possible to get the fair result IF the voting system is made fair. But we can’t get fair result if we continue the current format which includes the most unjust clauses such as:
* One person can vote as many times thru sms/phone as his pocket allows
* The producer reserves the right to accep/reject votes without being answerable.
And thats the reason why SRGMP 2005 was won by an average singer Debojit, superseeding the better singers like Nhira, Hemchandra, Himani, and Sharib.
Similar results we ahve seen in IIdol series. And even in SVOI has bited the dust after its best singers (Toshi, Piryani & Abhas) were voted out and they brought them back using all sort of means.
The bottomline is that the best singers of SRGMP 2007 which include Mussarat, Poonum & Amanat (as per my views) have not lost due to public voting but due to ZEE manipulation only.
So, being a Pakistani, but having an overview of these reality shows, I am not shocked from the results of the final although disappointed of course. I have no complaints from Indian people but my regard has increased instead for their true love of music and the honor they have showered upon our pakistani talent.
The main plus of watching this show to me had been the introduction to amazing singing talents of Mussarat, Poonum & Amanat.
Pl give me link to the music site created by senty and we will exchange our thoughts there.
Regards.
Basit Bukhari
@Blog Administrator Person (Sir/Maam) OR $hashi,
I see you have deleted all my comments again (not that I am very attached to my comments, but its bad manners and as a matter of principle, pls. do not ask whose principles..I will get confused).
Happened to me yesterday too!!!
I want to understand why you are doing this ?
I do NOT use any ABUSIVE language, SWEAR words or FOUL expressions EVER. And the rest of bloggers will confirm this if you need eye witnesses (!!).
In all my posts till date, you will not find a single word as offensive or foul (although my punctuation is sometimes wicked and evil, specially the periods, the commas and the ellipsis in particular *HAR*..Cough!!).
Pls. to explain what is going on ?
Why are you deleting my posts ?
Hmmmmm…………
Seriously bemused!!
@jmkego
Yes indeed I am a true Raja fan….yes i did read the lady in red article…haha to tell u the truth i was a little disappointed to hear he was married but im happy for him, but i still love him and always will =)
thank u for signin the petition, please do forward it to ur friends and I encourage EVERYONE TO SIGN!! WE HAVE TO BE HEARD! I DO FEEL THAT EVERY SIGNATURE WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE!
SO SIGN
http://www.petitiononline.com/Saregama/petition.html
just to reiterate:
RAJA IS THE WINNER, WHETHER ZEE WANTS TO PUBLICALLY ADMIT IT OR NOT!
by the way did you read the response by Zee
http://www.mumbaimirror.com/net/mmpaper.aspx?page=article§id=12&contentid=2007101720071017022614953790936e
shameful…as expected they gave no anwers and interestingly enough they didnt deny Ishmail allegations! Therefore, logic shows that Zee did in fact manipulate the results and SHOULD NOT be trusted!!
I for one will not vote and give these disgraeful people my hard earned money and very precious time..will you?
Hey guys,
This site is similar to the Raja Hasan site. You cannot say anything against Raja or Amanat, then you are screwed by the moderator.
I don’t know what they want but the fact remains that Aneek is the CHAMPION!!!
No amount of whinning and crying will change that!
@ Truth
Sorry to say its not “whining or crying” we are just stating the truth….interestingly enough as ur name =)
Aneek is by no means a champion, if anything hes the guy who got caught in the middle of this whole mess, its quite sad for him actually
For once Truthsie old girl, I agree with you. No warning, no rationale, explanations, Boom!!
Also, I am all fan. I like all of them, most of all the show and the Judges too.
Though, I think Himesh is the best of all!! He definately makes it happen!!
Go Himesh!!
- a mused
Basit said… On October 17, 2007
“But we can’t get fair result if we continue the current format which includes the most unjust clauses such as:
* One person can vote as many times thru sms/phone as his pocket allows”
I believe that SMS is the right way to measure popularity.
Just imagine when Amanat, Raja or Aneek releases a music CD and no one is buying the CD how you will measure the success of the songs?
Only way we know the success of a music CD is how many copies of them got sold out.
People who are ready to spend money on SMS show how much they really like the singer. They are ready to open their wallet also.
More over Zee TV also needs to make money. This time Zee made Rs. 120 crores only from sponsors. Also because of the popularity it’s getting more and more subscription everyday.
I looked back some of the programs from II3 or VOI yesterday; they can not come even close to SRGMP. So if you want good programs to come you have to allow them to be profitable also.
In return we get good entertainment.
Hey Manik,
That’s a serious thought. I also agree about the SMS part. I think ZEE needs to continue with SMS but address regional bias in voting through appropriate mechanisms.
Also, I do agree with you about ZEE making money. 101 of Business(basics of business) dictates that ZEE will continue doing a good job if it makes very good money. Also as ZEE makes more money, the competition would want to jump into the moolah and thus there would be many more shows. When there are many more shows, the cost of SMS etc. would come down due to competition pressures.
All in all, I am most optimistic and enthusiastic of having a good time.
-a musing.
Mr. Ismental darbar,
You are really mental. Your were smiling and seemed happy on the stage when Aneek won. What happened to you after that? Did someone pinch your butts and you turned mental?
You behaved the same way in 2005 as well and I was shocked to see your appearance again in SRGM 2007. You know why you are not having many music offers? ’cause of your arrogance and stupid behavior like this. You supported Debojit in 2005 who is the worst singer and passed stupid comments to on voters and zee. Now, again. Can you stop this non-sense? You always praised Aneek on the stage compared to Amanat or Raja and now you start talking crap ’cause your gharana did not win??? That’s why I call you Ismental.
Zee will never bring you to any show. I will bet that.
Hey guys,
There seems to be another person with the blog id Truth.
My favorites are Mussarat, Poonam and Amanat. I like Raja and Sumedha’s singing too. I guess one of us will have to change the id.
I fully agree with Ismail sahib’s views and what he said seems to be true. Amanat is realy a best singer and everyone who has a sense of music knows it very well, so there is no doubt that he should have been no.1. I blame Zee tv and the cellular services providers, because first, the procedure of voting by public is wrong it should be 50% by public and 50% by the judges. What is the role of judges if they do not have to select the best, do they just have to sit on the seats and support their singer? Secondly, no sms could be sent to any singer from Pakistan especialy since only 4 contestants were left, this was realy a pitty. Amanat was a best singer not because he is Pakistani but as a singer and everyone knows it. Please change the procedure of voting.
@Basit
Thanks for your comments. The link for senyt’s blog is
http://senty-musique.blogspot.com/
You are most welcomed to our blog. We have only serious music lovers onboard. No controversy. No mudslinging. Just appreciation of good music, and free and fair discussion.
Hope to see you soon.
To all….
Giving allegation. Nothing big in it. ID has to prove it. Anyway read this article what Mr. Ashish Kaul, head of Corporate Brand Development at Zee said about that.
The link :
http://www.televisionpoint.com/news2007/newsfullstory.php?id=1192620391
Ismail Darbar wages war against Zee TV’s Sa Re Ga Ma Pa
Wednesday - Oct 17, 2007
Televisionpoint.com Correspondent | Mumbai
Many singing stars are being born, courtesy the several music shows on the television. Whether or not they go on to attain greater glory is another matter, but the fact remains that the winning post remains elusive for girls.
At least that’s the trend that’s been witnessed all along, and even this year, all the female contenders are slowly being eased out, never mind the talent. Of course, the Indian story is vastly different from the American Idol which, ever since its inception in 2002, has thrown up several female stars including Kelly Clarkson, Fantasia Barrino, Carrie Underwood and Jordin Sparks this year.
When the girls were slowly going out from the show, Javed Akhtar, a judge in one of the music shows angrily spoke about the gender bias that was more than evident in them. But, as he says, “This mindset exists in society. There’s no escaping it however much you may try.”
Giving examples of the way many talented young ladies made their exit from the show, Mouli Dave, a contestant in one of the programmes who was called India’s Shakira, says that the herd mentality is the trend here.
“Voters think that guys have to be voted for because they are the ones who always win,” says Mouli who, though of Gujrati origin, is actually from the US. “Also, here, people still frown upon girls who want a career in showbiz. Voters who belong to normal, middle-class families would rather the female contestants come and take part in these shows and then go back home. This is so unlike the mindset in the US where gender is not taken into consideration and only talent is at stake,” she says.
Bappi Lahiri, a judge at one of the shows, was visibly upset when talented female contestants were ousted. “It’s sheer bad luck. But then that’s what the voting system does. The entire decision-making process should not be left to the janta,” he says. Agrees composer Jatin Pandit who feels at least 50 per cent of the result should depend on the judges’ opinion. “Then, such gender biases would not happen. As people who understand music, we would let only those with talent move ahead,” he says.
Talking about the section of the audience that forms the vote-base, music director Ismail Durbar says that it’s mainly the girls who vote. “And invariably they vote for boys. Even the boys who vote, do so for the male contenders because they prefer girls to sit at home,” he says adding, “And in the process, boys who are good performers and touch a chord with the viewers, get selected. What they forget is that these shows are about music.
Look at Lata Mangeshkar, she was never a performer, nor was Mohammed Rafi, but their names will always be written in the annals of music history.” He gives the example of contestant Poonam Yadav who he thinks should have been a winner. “It was so disappointing for all of us, but then since the results are based on votes, we are all helpless.”
He laughs talking about how female viewers sometimes, go overboard in their obsession with the male contestants. “A girl from Kolkata once landed up in Mumbai to meet Musarrat, a contestant from Pakistan. So you can imagine the amount of SMSes these guys would be receiving. Not that they are not good, but sometime’s girls can be better.”
However, Poonam Yadav prefers looking at the brighter side of things. “So what if I didn’t become a winner. I was among the top four. Gender bias may or may not exist, but I am happy with the kind of work I am already getting. And that’s good enough for me,” she says.
There has been an recent controversy over Aneek Dhar winning the Sa Re Ga Ma Pa Challenge 2007. Here are the excerpts between music director Ismail Durbar and Ashish Kaul, head of Corporate Brand Development at Zee. Durbar, who was a judge on the programme, is to be believed rigged voting, unfair judges and undeserving contestants who come up trumps is what reality shows are all about.
Ismail Asks: This year there was no live voting system unlike last year when Debojit won. This year the results were just brought in a sealed envelope to be announced by the celebrity guest Akshay Kumar.
Ashish Kaul Answers: There was no live screen voting system last year. We have an organisation with a modality platform which is largest in the subcontinent. The data is collected when we get the SMSes and then we hand over the results.
Ismail Asks: The judges have no clue about the voting system at all.
Ashish Kaul Answers: Then all the other judges should also say the same thing, but none of them are saying that. Let the other judges also say what Ismail is saying and then I will reply.
Ismail Asks: Going by pure musical standards, Amaanat should have won the contest.
Ashish Kaul Answers: Then he should not have been judge in the first place. He is talking about morality and ethics now. Where was he when in the last season Debojit won the contest and not Vineet, when everyone knew that Vineet was better?
Ismail Asks: Going by the number of votes, Raja, undoubtedly, should have been the winner when Aneek was the least expected to win.
Ashish Kaul Answers: I think it is sheer frustration. He himself is part of the system and if he had a problem then, why raise a voice now? The rules were laid down from day one, there is no point in questioning it now.
Ismail Asks: Last year the voting lines were live and Zee TV didn’t want Debojit to win the contest and that’s why they didn’t pay attention to his career.
Ashish Kaul Answers: We did what we had to. According to Ismail, we wanted Vineet to win and not Debojit, but we went by the viewers’ votes. Debojit won and we respected that decision. One has to understand that there will always be sympathy votes and it also happened in the case of Divakar in Little Champs. No one can say that Sanchita was not up there. So we can’t argue over this at all. According to the format of the show we must give the best possible playback singer, and we stuck to our format. Debojit got what he deserved.
Ismail Asks: Zee TV refused to send singers Aneek and Mouli to my show yesterday in Surat, thus trying to blackmail me to stop talking to the media.
Ashish Kaul Answers: If we wanted to pull out, we could have done that on Monday too, when he had a show, but the fact is that Mouli and Aneek are unwell and so they were unable to perform at the show.
Ismail Asks: Zee TV should make a fiction film rather than a reality show…
Ashish Kaul Answers: All I can say is that we have moved on after Friday when the contest got over, and even he should. It would be great if he concentrates on his career rather than making irresponsible comments.
$hashi -
First of all, thanks for continually maitaining our info source throughout the show! Can you PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE update All of Amanat’s songs so that we may download. Right now there are only 21 songs posted and some of his best performances, like the Ghazal episode and his last song from Masoom is not there. Thanks so much in advance!
Well…..Actually, I thought a lot and my musings are that Raja is the best and only person deserving to be a winner. His voice is soooo divine. O my god that Oink is too much, I tell you he can only be oink…..ahhhh. Bathroom singers are better than him. Oink was not singing, it was his oink oink…..all the time. oh, Raja you are the winner man. Way to go….hurray!!!!
Himass should be destroyed from this world, such a useless character. He only knows to bark….what a dog he is. I am serious guys. Lets not waste time on a dog. we will proceed…
Oh my god, I am so glad now, I am laughing so much here, oink oink…..so funny…ROFL!!! Oh I am going to the hospital again, I bust my ribs……oh ah ouch. Oink, go to hell, you insolent child.
- a musing
for those who are saying ID is crying sour grapes…
in challenge 2005, Debojit’s votes were being hampered with so Id spoke out when in fact Zee would have let this go by without anything happening.
ID complaining this time roudn makes sense too. I for the life of me cant understand how a singer who has been internationally voted number 1, fails to win because he didn’t finish number 1 in india?
surely the international votes would outweigh the indian ones? (its common sense)
going back to my point…bring back guru marking systems like they used to, that way, only a guru can mark and declare the winner. only allow public voting until the final and in the final use 3-5 maha guru’s to judge on the winner. this would solve all issues. i would like to see the public blame asha ji, lata ji, jagjit singh etc if they got the decision wrong (they wouldn’t).
in the words of diya mirza to amanat badi naa insaafi hogi aghar tummay sachay votes nahin milay
People are still blogging. Thats interesting. I just went through some of the posts above. I want to say that the winner has been declared and Aneek got his crown. Lets not fight over this issue. We got to accept it and move ahead in life. End of the day, its just a show. A deserving candidate will definitely succeed in life.
@ Musing
Please stop addressing aneek as oink. If you don’t respect others, others won’t respect you.
Keep your musings with yourself.
@$hashi,
Hey dude/dudette, I have a complaint to make. It seems like someone has hijacked my identity and is posting here as musing.
At first I thought thats a musing, I mean amusing. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. And I am indeed flattered(not flatted Mr. Hijacker moron).
Also, the person who has assumed my identity is obviously in Kinder Garten(that’s K.G for the imitator). Because the language used and the grammar(horrors punctuation errors galore!!) is so atrocious that its not too funny. So, I am writing this to you in hopes of this being an opportunity to introduce checks and balances. Should we tie in identity with e-mail id, so that it’s easier to stop these kind of juvenile pranks and also ban non-funny people easily ?
Easiest way to distinguish is the gap between the “hyphen”(no, no, mr. hijacker not high pen, its a difficult concept for you to grasp **HAR****HAR*****COUGH, COUGH*** ooooh you guys will be the death of me..sigh) and the “a” in the signature(meaning of signature is way over the top for you mr. hijacker)…..
Hey Pandey,
Chill. Read my posts carefully and then read the top post. Its like a 2 yr old child trying to imitate “Dad”..Not me, OK?
I differ with the hijacker. I think Aneek will win in life too and deserved to win. I liked Amanat and Aneek…
-a musing (the real deal for other bloggers: Beware of imitators)
@Lahori and Mushing (and others)
This is first and last warning to you all. Don’t post any irrelevant comments here. This is not a chat forum. If you have something to say about saregamapa, you are most welcome. But if all just want to make useless comments, kindly get out of this forum ….Don’t waste valuable time of others…(Any irrelevant comment will be deleted)
@$hashi,
Good Morning!!
Pls. read my post above and institute stronger identity protection mechanisms.
Also, I welcome and appreciate your effort in deleting “useless” posts but also make sure that you prevent foul language and identity hijackers at the same time asap.
It was funny for some time, but became boring soon thereafter.
Also, its MUSING as in thinking and not MUSHING
Regards,
-musing.
$hashi, OK boss.
I just wanted to pull musing’s leg as he/she always tries to be the punter in everything. She/he doesn’t know to respect others. I was playing the same prank with musing to let her/him know, how it feels to others. Musing is frustrated enough with this.
$hashi, you are very annoyed with me, I apologise to you for not obeying your rules in your blog.
I also want to apologise with Lahori and Truth. I don’t know you guys, I have nothing against you. Yes, I did read your posts earlier and laughed a lot. But, I know you people have been held responsible now for my actions. I sencerely apologise.
Peace.
@$hashi,
Any responses ?
To my alter ego(alter ego is a very difficult concept to explain, but yes I am talking to the other musing), I dedicate this one liner -
I came from a real tough neighborhood. Once, a guy stuck a knife into me. I knew he wasn’t a professional, I laughed and laughed ; the knife had butter on it!!
Anyways, always good for a bunch of laughs
-a musing.
Is everthing normal now? I was wondering who is this other person with the id musing? There is one more person with the id “Truth”, I thought its the same person who has created these ids.
Anyways, new musing, not a problem. I must say that I also read your posts and laughed a lot. So fine, all ended well.
If I see the other “Truth” again in this blog, I will change my id. I don’t want any confusion here.
@ original musing
Yes, I ragged you a lot and used all the swear words. If at all I have to say something, I say it directly. I won’t wear a mask, so don’t think that every post against you is mine. I think its the same with Lahori.
One thing I would like to tell you. Don’t think that people are stupid. You try to condemn everyone who doesn’t agree with you. That is not the way to argue, be fair and give logical explanations, don’t degrade the other individual. People will get back at you in some or the other way. Don’t have such a big ego, it will take you nowhere. Respect others and others will also respect you. This is my advice to you.
Ane yes, don’t send such silly stuff (the balloon crap). Its a common joke across the world in every company and industry
Good day to everyone!!
“Yes, I ragged you a lot and used all the swear words. If at all I have to say something, I say it directly. I won’t wear a mask, so don’t think that every post against you is mine. I think its the same with Lahori”
1 second contradiction again. You used a handle called “Truth” used swear words in Urdu/Hindi and say I don’t wear a mask!! The irony is definitely not hidden :))
The rest of the post is tautology and does not warrant a response
About the ballon stuff, don’t knock it till you understand it. Now again, furrow your brow, be serious and focus…read it again.
Got it? No ? I will resend it some other time
-a musing.
BTW about SRGMP 2007.
I think Ismail Darbar is a big liar. Currently unoccupied so does not have anything better to do than to create controversies.
All this is not going to help Amanat and Raja. If it can, pls. explain how ?
All of us discussing this here is not helping either Amanat/Raja or ourselves.
-a musing
@ Musing
Trying to communicate with you is such a futile exercise. You are like a pig that loves to wriggle in the mud and any amount of persuation to change will not help. Nothing gives you greater pleasure than dragging people down to your level and getting into this kind of a meaningless contest. I truly pity you, its a waste of time and energy to be corresponding with you.
If you notice you slipped up in your post too “1 second contradiction again” what does that mean, have to question your claim that you are an expert in the usage of the English language. However, I do not attach any importance to such slipups. I just wanted to show it to you that nobody is perfect. Laugh out as loudly as you want and clap as hard as you want. It doesn’t make any difference to any soul whatsoever.
Good luck to you in this compitition, wriggle in the mud as much as you like. No one is going to join you, but everybody surely is laughing at you.
Truthsie sweet girl,
I never came after you..the first post you sent me was a filthy one about a$$ sutured and puking and so on…
I have only responded with laughter all this time..I don’t know why that has hurt you so much.
Imagine all this while, you, lahori and god knows how many of your co-conspirators hijacked my identity..but had no imagination as to what to do with it. I was extremely flattered that after taking recourse to swear words and undoubtedly filthy language you had to stoop so low as to hijack me imitate me and so on..while I have maintained equanimity and peaceful. I have laughed at your puerile and inane efforts at offense.
While what have you done? 3,4 people Scream incoherently swear words and so on
I do not blame you for your lack of articulation, this is usually due to upbringing and education.
What have you come to now ? It must hurt and burn so much to learn that bad manners and foul language cannot take you far
Must give you a lot of heartburn
Since you have chosen to ask me as to the meaning of the 1 second contradiction, let me explain to you (things you do not understand, are meaningful you know..do not give up, who knows? one day you might even pass 4th grade **HAR****HAR***COUGH****COUGH).
1 Second Contradiction is a phenomenon when a person is so unfocused in his communication that he spouts contradictions in every sentence. Got it every second he contradicts himself!! Usually happens to primate’s and such folks at early stages of evolution.
How does that fit you? You said you swore at me, while assuming an unlikely name like Truth and yet I do not wear masks
You hide behind false names, use a language you know I have difficulty comprehending and say you do not wear masks ??!! Then, you saw that someone has taken over your name in a post up there and has been posting all this garbage. Then you come out and say you ragged me to teach me a lesson..
Sir, you are a 0.5 second contradiction. Can’t say the Truth for a second.
I am so sorry for you that you gave up. I did like the contradiction in this post too. You are one who was spouting all the trashy words, not once have I used a foul word and yet you call me a pig!!
Guess to pig, everyone looks like a pig :))
BUH BYE Dear Truthsie Pie..I don’t think, you not talking to me will be a loss..you had stopped being funny long time back..
-a mused
I really cannot comment on the fixing of the results, but one thing is sure, Amanat and Raja will do extremely good in their life. Especially Amanat, he is THE WINNER. Once the pioneers in music, Shri Pandit Jasraj ji and Shri Jagjit Singh ji had declared, there is and cannot be a second opinion. Poor Aneek, nothing against him, but will have to struggle as he has got the conventional voice, which is immature and a bit similar to some of the good singers already in the business.
Raja has a very rustic voice that is appealing. There are not many singers, oh let me see, there is no singer with the same or similar voice has his. Hi sfolk base is excellent.
I hope Amanat and ID ji come up with a new album together…and the title should be “ALABELA SAJAN”
Hahahaha… truth has disturbed you a lot mussing pussying .LOL. this is a fact and my kicking your a$$ had also annoyed you a lot. What she said about you was not a bad language but “WORDS OF HONOR” bestowed upon you by her. Thank her amd me that we returned you your lost “TITLES”.HAHAHA
All this discussion about 4th grade , 3rd grade.. spelling, grammer..LOL.. You look disturb my friend. And HAR**HAR**COUGH**COUGH**.. What a pity.She has helped you to embrace insanity . I am glad..So many mails and long ones… Are you trying to prove something to us? Aww.. First sign of mental disorder.. Don’t worry We will not torture you anymore.. have You seen you are just talking to yourself? Second, and very strong sign of insanity.. LOL.. Well, We will check on you mental health sometime later.. until then Bye.. Don’t forget to take your pills.. else……HAR**HAR**Cough**Cough. You will start gain…lol..
@ musing
You are so hopeless that you still don’t get the import. You are a person who never accepts her mistakes. You do not use abusive language, however you are the first one to ridicule anyone who doesn’t agree with you. These are below the belt blows made at either the person’s education or upbringing.
These are worse than using abusive language because it shows the true nature of the person who makes these comments. Do you believe in having healthy discussion with people who do not subscribe to your point of view? If yes, then you should discuss the topic on hand and not get into making personal attacks. I have seen you poking fun of people’s names on this forum and now you claim to be holier than thou.
End of the day, both of us are using masks as we are not using our names as ids, so what masks are you accusing me of wearing? If you have the guts, use your name as your id, this musing business is no more amusing!!! There is no thought in any of your musings.
All in all, Its like the pot calling the kettle black, ha ha ha very funny.
A clarification, I never created a blog id called musing, I would never ever be associated with that name on any forum. For me it has come to symoblize all the ugly things that you represent, so no way would I ever consider using THAT name.
Continue to wriggle in the mud….
P.S: There is nothing called as “1 second contradiction” in the English language. I say this with certainity having lived in the US and UK for many years.
Musing, one last thing. Don’t be such a fool to think that people believe you when you say that you don’t know hindi or have difficulties understanding it. We know very well that you have understood each and every word that was posted by me and Lahori.
The change in tone and tenor of your latter posts clearly indicates this, they were markedly sombre and tempered. Continue in these restraint ways, your hospital visits will totally disappear.
@lahori chori,
The worm crawls out of the woodwork :))
I am doing fine thank you for asking. I am very proud of you girl for showing up and behaving so nicely this time. It shows that association with people of culture will rub off. I can see that you have eschewed the gutter language more natural to you and started smiling patiently at differences
phew what a magnificent achievement !! I am seriously proud of myself..I am going to print this post of yours and Frame it..before and after you know
I have some faith that you will now positively infect the rest of people in lahore/pakistan!! Who knows in another million years you might learn the meaning of civilization
lahore should seriously celebrate today **LOL**
The most magnificient achievement is that I taught you english in 2 days!! what was that ? tension naahin lena veer ?
I am so pleased and proud of you. Take a bow now girl !! Be sweet and good now..don’t lose focus. I do not want you to regress after this much improvement, OK ?
@Truthsie girlie,
Come on now, don’t give up. You are showing signs of improvement too
First, you have started talking in proper English. Secondly, you have started trying to express yourself…come on now be patient with yourself girl
Give it another 20 yrs master the alphabet :))
I need to persist talking to my dogs seeing that I have already affected such a massive change in you and your girlfriend lahori in two days :)) EXPERITMENT SUCCESSFUL
I cannot believe that I can laugh you two jokers into behaving properly and use proper manners in addressing people. That’s a big change already, come on you seem to be demonstrating some intelligence, admit it
There you go, see it was easy once you do it once…
One more mild improvement would help and after such a big improvement it would not be too tough. You see - Its not nice to call people ugly or pig and all that. Chide, be vitriolic, cynical, all that, but don’t call names.
One clarification, We are not the same you and me, since I do not abuse people by swearing at them in Urdu or Tamil and then claim I do not wear a mask. Got the difference? Also, Pls. do not come down to the level of - show me where you live and see what I do !! That will get me seriously started laughing again
Careful now :))
Lastly, since you are showing such promise, let me help you out further in your education
Look up for something called the 5 minute contradiction in google. Now, think hard, 5 minute would apply to normal intelligent humans. So would I not need to compress this to 1 second for folks lower in the evolution chain (deduced from your behavior over the last couple of days) ?? Got it ??
If you still have difficulty, drop me a note and I will help you further.
Lastly, about US and UK, I read about a conversation between Roosevelt and Mahatma Gandhi. Roosevelt asked Gandhiji his thoughts about US civilization and Gandhiji responded (tongue in cheek, of course) : “Its an interesting notion”
So maybe you need to unlearn the bad habits you have picked up in the US and UK girlie. I would advice spending some time in Timbucktoo :))
This time it was seriously
-a musing
@ Musing
As always your posts are the same trash talk, long winded without substance and adding absolutely no value.
Go to hell….
@Truth girlie,
I suspect you have referred me to a place you are familiar with **Chuckle**
Respectfully, decline. You first
-a mused.
@Truth Girlie,
One more thing, now that you have admitted that you and lahori were the people doing all this nonsense from the outset and have abandoned pretense about people hijacking your identity, my hopes have increased.
What a radical achievement!!!!!!
Truth becoming more and more truthful, **SCORN**
Can it continue?? Hope against hope??!! I was bored with the hospital anyways and now am getting bored with you folks too…
YyyaaaaaWWWwwwwwwNNnnnnn……
girlie do something, a backflip or something ??
-a muse about musing
hahahah Mussy pussy… We are getting what we wanted.. **wink** You are showing sign of insanity..LOL.. Such a long mail from a pussy?LOL.. MENTAL DISTURBANNCE..Target HIT. lol. You see how good we Lahori are at it? I am sure You are getting proud of me know as I am getting on your nerves now..Hahaha.. What You could not achieve with mile long mails “Truth and I” did with such short messages.. I am sure that what Titles TRUTH and I bestowed upon you, your “PURSH” will be getting very proud of you and smiling at you in Heavens. If need will be, We will keep Awarding you with such HONORS in future..lol.. HUR***HUR** Cough**Cough***LOL..
Hahahahah..
Lahori Chori,
I notice that as a first sign of improvement, you have started imitating me
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery girl..Keep working, who knows one day, we might have a human in Lahore!!!
Proud of you girl, always
But don’t be embarassed of your root..do what you must from time to time
**HAR****HAR****HAR****HAR****HAR****HARRRR****HARRRR****HARRRR**
**HARRRRRRRRR****HARRRRRRRRR****HARRRRRRRRR****HARRRRRRRRR**
***COUGH, COUGH******COUGH, COUGH******COUGH, COUGH****
**WHEEZE****WHEEZE****WHEEZE**
-musing.
@Truth
I agree with you.. hahaha .. Mussy pussy understood every single Hindi/Urdu/punjabi Honors You and I bestowed upon him .. Did You observe the signs of Insanity already he is showing? Hahahah.. congratulations to you on your 1001 Titles You awarded him.Bhai Dil Khush Kar Diya… and few of my selctive ones as well.. See? How he murmurs to himself? That pride of mastering English , spelling, grammer ALL came down and converted into Embarrassment..As if we give a damn what he the hell knows ?LOL.. One who doesn’t know his own language is a useless Trash. Hahaha.. And that’s exactly he is being treated.. It’s very little he can do anything about it.. Cuz Once he lost respect ..LOL.. we are going to give him back…? No way… hahahaha…
Daikh to Dil Kay Jaaan Say Uthtah Hai
Yeh Dhuwaan sa Kahan Say Uthtah Hai..
Hmmmmm….
Truth seems to have gone to his native place in hell.
Respect from the sub-human in Lahore?
Do we need it? Hmmmmm…..
NAH!!
**HAR****HAR****HAR****HAR**
**HARRRRRRRRR****HARRRRRRRRR**
***COUGH, COUGH******COUGH, COUGH******COUGH, COUGH****
**WHEEZE****WHEEZE****WHEEZE**
-musing.
@ Truth..
O My Goodness!!! Did You see his(mussy pussy) last posting Truth? He has started BARKING? WOW.. I can’t believe that You have made this happen in such short period of time..Amazing amazing!!!.. It’s such a miracle what you achieved !!!! if it were not for your Magical Hindi Words, He would not be doing this. Well, Now that he has started barking and became such a nice Poodle.. Just adopt him..it will be so much fun kicking his a$$ in captivity..LOL…hahaha..
Lahoribhai, the credit goes to you too. Congratulations!!!
It would be great fun to kick the poodle’s ass!!!
Barking dogs never bite, so its just harmless noise.
@Truth
LOL.. Dil Khush Kar diya Tum nay to.. App Ko hamara Salaam /namaste..
Thank you that you think the same way.. There is no bigger fun than kicking a poodle’s a$$ in captivity..Now that he is already on the verge of insanity..it’s time for him to reflect. Hope he will else I have no problem to make his PURSH proud in Heavens with a series of Honorable Titles that I might award him next time with..LOL..
@jmkegeo,
I would never be rude to you maam. I am never rude to people or ROFL them. About Ismail, he has always been a foul mouthed person. His music scores have been good, but he is not getting any work now it seems.
I think ID is trying to reinvent his image. But, I agree with you, he does not have a good voice and should not venture in that direction…
One can see, how much he will be able to support Amanat or anybody else.
I remember, two years back, he had promised to Nihira that he is asking Allah to not give him death until he made Nihira a superstar..two years back(There is a clip on youtube on this and like I said, I am not very sure, but this seems to be what he said)!!
It seems, he has not done anything for her, nor has he referred her anywhere!! Hence, me calling ID a big liar.
Thanks for the title of King of the Gab
- a musing
Hmmmmm…… Lahori Old Girl, you seem to have advanced state of dementia. Worried for you girl, go to a doctor (all this might be too sophisticated for you to understand, pls. ask some intelligent person to help you you).
Kicking a poodle’s a$$ who is in captivity seems to be your idea of fun!! You are a very sick person.
What’s a PURSH ?
Pls. feel free to spout your normal language or titles..I do not have any problems
You have been exposed as liar(with your english) and now as a psychological disaster with your ramblings about poodles…
Hmmmmm……. Seriously unfunny stuff chori.
-a musing.
Truthsie old girl,
How ironic. My sentiments exactly. I never did Bark!!
It was you and Lahori with the garbage stuff all this while and you have admitted to it.
It must have hurt that you have been barking but could not bite :))
Also, the urge to kick me reveals your frustration now!!
Plus you and lahori’s approach in life - if someone does not agree with you, first hurl foul words and absuses at them…next step, go and kick them physically!!
You sub-humans never evolved…stew in your own juice :)) I am laughing away over here at you and the other sub-human’s mutterings.
-a musing.
Himesh R, I Darbar,and Z networks Should be punished by public for
1. insulting and hurting good name of Sumedha by promoting love story.
2.Rigging the contest by dishonest promotion of candidate.
3. Ismail Darbar for being a yes man to HR and being dishonest as a judge.
I request public to ask for public apology from the three.
mussy pussy,
There is a saying in hindi “laaton ke bhooth baaton se nahi maante”. Now, scratch your head, knee, bums to find out what this means hey yes you can ask you friend……
See I give the solution also, oh I am so good.
Common be a good poodle, find out its meaning. I have confidence in you that you will get its meaning right, I and Lahori have groomed you enough. Run fast, faster…….
Dear Mussy Pussy,
I am so glad that everytime Open this page.. I see You barking..long mails..giving explainations to your ownself because nobody else seems to give a damn..lol, caling names to others,trying to prove yourself( That’s another thing that we don’t listen..hahahaha).. and more.. That’s a High degree of INSANITY.. congratulations!!! Ahhh.. What nice dreams we had for you and look what you have become; A completely Insane individual(but You think you are more than one.another sign of insanity.lol) .. All I can do is to pray for you.Go and look up the meaning of “PURSH” in hindi dictionary for us.. else You will prove to the world that It’s so ligitimate to kick your Rear..
@Truth you trained him well,, see? how he comes running when You Or I post anything.. You are a good Poodle Trainer..Congratulations!!And tell him don’t get mad Poodly when we kick your rear because.. it’s an act of appreciation for all his untiring work for us(barking)..LOL
tension nahin leeni mera Veer..
Ahhhh…..What a bore.
You know, the last thing left for people who have been soundly whipped is to resort to the oldest thing in the book…imitation..You guys have made me famous. Thanks. Its like listening to an echo.
Yesterday, also, you guys got such a whipping with the identity thing that I had smiles till late in the night
I think, if I stop here, you guys will keep on eccchoooinnggg.
Maybe, I will try to communicate next when you reach the level of primates
-a mused but a bit bored.
Oh our mussy pussy is got bored now, how sad. We have been very harsh on you…..oh little poodle…yeah, we understand your pain but don’t worry we we will put more “haddis” for you. So, you will get well soon. Now go and find out the meaning of “haddis”, we know you are tired…so this time you go slow, I won’t make you run faster OK. See we are good people.
Lahoribhai, you are right. Kutte ko haddi phenkne se woh jaldi bhaag ke aata hai, par usko toh haddiyan kam padh gayee hain aur woh bechara thak ke bore ho gaya hai. Khane mein kanjoosi nahi karte hain. Hum haddiyan zyada phekenge. Bechara bhonk na bandh kar diya hai. Bahut nainsafi hai.
Our poodle’s creativity is infinitesimal, every post looks just like the previous million ones. Oh mussy pussy, you are really bored and tired. I hope Lahoribhai puts more haddi for you.
Truthsie echo point - boring and repetitive…Yawwnnnnn
@jmkegeo and girish,
I think, anybody thinking that Ismail Darbar is an ethical person should watch this clip from SRGMP 2007.
Specially see the promise made by ID at 02:28
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sa9EHysOpI0
All 3 judges and Shaan had to hang their head at this injustice.
I hope ID’s Allah fulfills his wish !!
What a rascal. He has not done anything for Nihira after that theatrical outburst.
-musing
Hahahaha musing, a loser, so happy to see this. whenever you are hit very badly, all you do is HAR or YAWN, such a bad loser. You are the most pathetic person ever born in this world.
Since you have come in the blog, all the good people have left this blog. You are so evil minded, you are surely a devil!!!
Either poeple are kicking your ass or enjoying the spectacle of watching you getting kicked left and right. Ofcouse, people would love to see a devil being whacked.
To all the nice people of this blog, we had a good time through saregamapa. But the golden days have now gone, so goodbye.
I had a good time reading all this too. I am from NWFP in pakistan. I thought musing did a good job, I had a good laugh.
Also, it looks like lahori and Truth, learned lessons from a real fighter.
Keep going musing. LOL, I am learning myself so much.
Hahahahahahah
LOL, This is really good Ikramuddin bhai.
What a butt beating Truth and lahori got from musing. lolz and lolz bhai
musing bhai, aap laajwab ho. Pls continue, teach them a lesson. Shit people like them deserve this lesson.
Musing, stop this non sense of creating multiple ids. I was a peson with the id musing yesterday. I told $hashi that I was doing it and I didn’t want to do it again. I respect $hashi, otherwise I would have made you run away from this blog. I just wanted to say good bye to all the nice people in this blog who know me. I was right, when I said that you are a loser. Now, you are running here and there to make multiple fake ids as you don’t have the guts to reply. Shame on you!!
Atleast respect the person who runs this blog.
Hmmmmm……..
Looks like I missed all this action.
Dhaval/Lahori/Truth/Ikram/Shoaib, old girl you seem to have been making a lot of Id’s again and playing with yourself
Amusing past time. Let me not stop you from playing with yourself :))
Hmmmmmmm………
Dementia with multiple schizophrenia and …..
-a mused
Oie Dhaval Khajoor Ki jaan, tu phir aa gaya ?
Musing bhai, chodna nahi eis khabeez ko. Otherwise pls bring him to NWFP we will make nice kheema out of him and feed the pigs hahahahahaha
Bhag dhaval bhag …nahin to aa ja idhar
Shoaib Bhai, Hahhahahhahhaha that was a so phunny koment. I am lolz and lolz bhai wah!
Feed shit to the pigs hahhahaahhaha
Good One.
hahahaha LOL!!! mussy pussy, yeh kya halat banali hai apni, kuch leti kyun nahi. Didn’t understand? hahaha.
Looks like you have enemies all around you.
Wow!!! Dhaval saab, aapne toh dhamaal machadiya. You made mussy create multiple fake ids….you disturbed her so much!!! wah wah wah, kya baat hai. Congrats to you. You are the real winner!!
Oh mussy poodle, don’t make so many enemies, see Dhaval saab is calling you DEVIL, thats really bad. Common be a good poodle, don’t be so naughty OK.
hahaha, I didn’t know musing would fall to this level. LOL!!! sach chupaye nahi chupta.
First lie: hindi nahi aati hai, abhi kaise hindi mein likh raha hai. Chalo maloom toh padah ke hamari saari gaaliyan isne khaiyee hain aur woh bhi besharm hoke.
Second lie: “looks like I missed the action”, hahahaha, this one is really funny. LOL!!!
I must tell you that you are really a loser, you are caught red handed now. We know you will not admit it in the blog, at least you should know that you have lost your credibility fully.
We can only laugh about it and only pity you. You showed at least to me and Lahori, how third class a person you are….oops a poodle.
REAL LOSER!!!
P.S: Lahoribhai, chodo is third class aadmi ko, yeh kis se baat kar rahe the hum. Abhi kuch bhi likhne ke liye dil nahi karta hai is aadmi ke liye, bahut hi ghatiya jaanwar hai.
Aap se milke bahut khushi huyee, aap ek bahut hi dildaar aur dilchusp insaan hain. Apna khayal zaroor rakhiyega, alvida.
Dhaval/Lahori/Truth/Ikram/Shoaib/Hafeez,
Whatever
old girl you seem to be making a lot of Id’s again and playing with yourself
while blaming others
?
Hmmmmmmm………
Trying to prove another point ?
That I know hindi/urdu now?
Is musing also a figment of your own imagination and ID you create to play with yourself???
Dementia with multiple schizophrenia compounded by persecution mania and now hysteria …..!!!!!
Looks like classic case of rapid degradation…This condition is also bought about by sore loser condition. Guess either you will all end up in a mental asylum or run away from this blog…
-a mused a musings
**HAR****HAR****HAR****HAR****HAR****HARRRR****HARRRR****HARRRR**
**HARRRRRRRRR****HARRRRRRRRR****HARRRRRRRRR****HARRRRRRRRR**
***COUGH, COUGH******COUGH, COUGH******COUGH, COUGH****
**WHEEZE****WHEEZE****WHEEZE**
**HAR****HAR****HAR****HAR****HAR****HARRRR****HARRRR****HARRRR**
**HARRRRRRRRR****HARRRRRRRRR****HARRRRRRRRR****HARRRRRRRRR**
***COUGH, COUGH******COUGH, COUGH******COUGH, COUGH****
**WHEEZE****WHEEZE****WHEEZE**
-a musing
For Vishal
Stop criticizing ID’s progess in his profession…that just makes you look stupid. Your comment about him amounting so basically nothing in so many years is plain stupid. Most of the people that try to get to the point that he is at now don’t make it. I won’t make it. You won’t make it. He has talent and an eyes and ears for music. If you wanna talk about his suspicion on voting…go ahead…but again…don’t make yourself look like a fool by saying that he is nothing.
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Hello!
As a fan of yours I really appreciate your entertaining support with film industry and I even accept you as a good judge for India’s famous reality show “Voice of India” briefing about me and my colleagues who watch all the singing reality shows, some times we frame our own marks before the judges give their marks watching on the show. We also noticed that VOI 2008 was also in a good track at the initial stage and now we see a lot of disappointments not from the janata but the singing maestros juris who are judging the singers which is taking the show away from he realities and I think many can come at any time and any body can be kicked out of the show anytime particularly with contestant like Ritisha who was the voice of all the judges when she was just developing and now when she is to the mark she is being neglected like anything the show seems taking unreal turning at this stage where all the judges are supporting their own heros instead of selecting a real singer, lost singer can make re-entry, judges being picked to go out of show, cups/mikes are used for showing anger and many more things we also watch other shows like Indian idol, TVS saregama and other but we are truly happy with the decisions made and remarks given. We hope this thing shall not be there in forth coming reality shows.