*** This Week Spoiler ***
Hi friends..and here we are..with another spoiler for this week. The shooting for 28th September Episode (ie. elimination round) is already started, but they will shot 29th September episode tomorrow..
1. Aneek
2. Raja
3. Amanat
4. Poonam is eliminated
In the first round only Indian Voting were counted and in that Raja has topped followed by Aneek..But in International Voting Aneek topped
Counting after Indian Votes
Raja – number 1
Aneek – number 2
Poonam – number 3
Amanat number 4
International Votes
Aneek – number 1
Raja – number 2
Amanat – number 3
Poonam – number 4
1. Theme for this Friday – Ghazal Songs
Guest for Friday – King of Ghazal – Jagjit Singh
Raja’s Ghazal – Ye Dil Ye Paagal Dil Mera” Gulaam Ali “Aawargi”
Guest for Saturday – Team of Om Shanti Om – Farah Khan and Deepika Padukone (Shahrukh might come..not confirmed)
Each Contestants are going to sing two songs each on Friday and Saturday..
@Rekha
Bohat Bohat shukria.
Men bus aik hi baat kahoon ga ki tum to ab ticket kata hi lo ithar kay liye, satth mein Amar,Raj, senty, sweety or jis jis ko chaho lay ana. Bohat Jagah hai yahan. Poonam to aik hi kamray mein rahaygi. Baki to kkhali hain. Phir Mehfil bhi khoob sajaygi. Aur phir khanay ka pura bandobast hai.
I have a list of all her songs. Bhai hun to saray hi ganay suneingay. Ab achcha lagay ya Bura.LOL
Regards
Ghaffar Khan.
Totally agree with you ,Mehfil yaar,as well as with most of the people here who admire and praise Poonam.
But this still beats me,how come if there are so many Indians abroad,who obviously have had voted for Poonam, ( like i did,although from the internet ) then how come Poonam had almost no ” international ” votes??
I’m telling you,something really stinks in this Zee story about votes…
Marinos
Greece
@Rekha,
I tried my best to find out the site from where I pulled that article, I am still not getting it. I normally used to send links to my good friend but of late, their company internet policy has changed, so i had to copy and paste. My gut feeling is it is from rediff.com. But I will continue to search for this.
@Senty
You are really humble and modest. You claim you don’t know anything but at the same time you put lots of technical details. Cool.. I am fine with this as long as I get some useful info. Also it is nice to know that you are a singer.
@0.02
what should i say, you really make me(I already said this once) to repeat that your posts are Million $ worth. Just for a change this time your posts are “Billion$ and 2/100 cents” worth.
@Gaffar,@Sweety
Nice poetry.
@mehfil once again kudos.
See.. I told you all in my previous post, you do put lot of efforts into this.
Good stuff appreciate you all.
Raj
Dear Raj
You appear to own a very nice and pure heart.
That’s THE most important thing.
Having expertise (which I don’t have also) in a certain language is nothing compared with the power (which you have) of a few simple heartfelt words. I mean it.
Thanks so much indeed for including me in your list (doesn’t matter at all if it’s misspelt).
Addressed to all serious participants in this forum:
I think we are headed to cloying land. Let’s inject some salinity to address the pH balance of this forum.
To understand Himesh and what he does, why, etc… one needs to look up on the net as to why he is as he is. People love to hate but really is he as bad as we make him out to be or are we forming half baked opinions???
Life is never binary in nature, there are multiple shades and this applies in this case too. Is Himesh so thoroughly evil (maybe he is not good, but c’mon he is not the devil)? Is there a side of him we have missed ? Maybe, just maybe, everything is not so bad and there is a good side which is not exposed to public?
As one understands he has had a deprived childhood and has had to mature early. No one has given him anything in fact he has had to undergo tremendous strife and struggle to become whatever he has become. In many ways he has faced the big bad really terrifying world of bollywood at the age of 16 and fought his way upwards. Believe me taking on the load of a family and subsuming oneself in the corrupting influence of Bollywood can leave life long scars. People change their nature and become battle hardened, its a dog eat dog world out there. Something a lot of people here have never experienced. Everyday people come to the stage of SRGMP and cry in public asking for mercy and pity, but, there are some who never cry just learn lessons and keep being tougher and tougher until they seem harsh and tough individuals. But, the core of softness and sensitivity is still there….
Himesh really blew a top when Vishal Dadlani suggested that all participants need to be versatile. This is so naive a suggestion that one wonders whether Vishal has really matured as a composer. Everyone knows that even experienced singers stick to a genre and do not over experiment. Ask Pt. Jasraj to sing a Qawwali or Vishal himself to sing a thumri…Himesh did not go sentimental but tried to shout down people saying look guys enough nonsense first try and get bread on the table for the family (Roti Chahiye..) What’s wrong in that ??? People like Poonam and others who have seen hardships from their earliest childhood would understand this sentiment. After that he has tried his best for almost all the participants. Vishal and Shekhar along with Raja were trying to hype Raja to the moon, by saying that Raja is a simpleton, who is a good-hearted person and injects soul into his singing. Everytime, they ignored Junaid and Harpreet focussing on Raja dancing on the stage and really impressing on people that when Raja opens his mouth the sun shines brighter….Himesh took some time to understand what was happening but when he did he responded the only way he knew, he grabbed the mike and shouted, supported his contestants…His shouting made the junta aware of what was happening. Granted he is not as subtle as Vishal but is he evil ? Definitely Not!!
After last year’s SRGMP I can see that he has given the maximum number of chances to ALL the participants. Including Himani and Hemachandra from Adesh Srivastav’s gharana. I don’t see the other gurus giving Vineet any chance. So he believes in all participants and fights for all of them. He has been talking about Poonam all the time stressing the fact that she should be proud of her roots. I am sure he will give her many chances in the future and time will reveal the nature and number of chances other gurus will give to the contestants…
As he has reiterated many a times in the past, he is trying to help everyone and also win. When contestants come to SRGMP its assumed that composers need not sit down with a harmonium and teach them fundamentals. The guru’s are supposed to guide the contestant’s and also fight opponents to ensure that as mentors they clear the path for victory of their wards. Himesh has been doing his job to the last T as far as that is concerned. He is ready to fight the whole world (the same way he has been doing from his early childhood for himself and his family) for his wards and that tells me he is a person who believes in justics and has a soft sentimental core which leads him to fight for his near and dear ones.
I would like to submit that like Rakhi Sawant who is unafraid to shout to make a point, Himesh has had to deal with low life and has learned to talk his way out of such situations. Shouting down opponents is a mark of a man who does not know how to play politics or be subtle. Much maligned much bashed I think its time Himesh was appreciated for the efforts he has been putting for ALL participants and given his due. Look at all his comments in a dispassionate fashion and you will realize he is fighting for justice.
In the sub-continent we love to hate people only switching opinions when we deem we have hated enough and maybe we need to now swing to the other extreme adulation.
Don’t idolise Himesh but be fair he is not doing anything wrong. He is a strong character and Vishal cannot match eyes with Himesh because he stands exposed for what he has been doing all this time. Ismail is scared to cross swords because he knows Himesh will squash him like a fly if he opens his mouth.
The truth as I see it.
-$0.02Worth
This is why you are $0.02(billion) worth. Yes I mean it. I feel it in my heart of hearts!
Exactly..exactly my points! but far far better expressed than how I could have expressed it.
I have all along expected it from you and only from you.
I have been refraining from it myself because the few times I have tried to make the point that Himesh and Aneek are not the filthiest rogues of the world I ended up opening the floodgates of more and more hatred.
I was utterly surprised when I saw YOU join the bandwagon, as I was expecting especially from you more poise more rationality. Now it’s just like you.
Appeal from my side too for more poise, more self-possession, more rethinking, more reflection and more rationality to still-seething friends here in this forum.
Am I being too prim? Let me be once and for all.
I reiterate: Friend you ARE worth $0.02(billion).
Regards
Dear Sumitroji:
I agree, I should have been more circumspect. I did some serious soul searching and came to the above conclusions.
Can we be right all the time? No!!
But as long as we give our best effort and reason it out….there’s no harm in venturing our opinion. If the other’s differ then so be it.
But the important thing as human beings is for one to respect each other’s opinion and maintain decorum. I understand by professing my views so openly I am lending myself to attack. But I believe whatever I said above and so be it…
Poonam is another case, she is a fine person. An example for all of us but the fact remains she had a bad night and she WAS not singing well that night. At this stage, one night can make all the difference. But she has already achieved whatever she could have from this competition and maybe the almighty has ordained her elimination in this fashion to help her meet her destiny much better ?
-$0.02Worth.
I am always at a loss whenever I intend to describe my feelings towards Poonam in words.
Now I am really striving to give it an expression but words still fail me.
She may have been one of the best singers in this impersonal contest but she is THE best as a person.
PS: I do not mean to be unfair to other aspirants to SRGMP as I do not know them personally.
When I say: Poonam is the best person, it should be looked upon as my sheer emotions for her.
There may be other great souls among other SRGMP contestants as well.
i never commented in this section before.. but after seeing everyone’s comment, i cudn’t resist..
if there is anyone in Saregamapa who I would love to watch any day any time, then it is Poonam.
WE LOVE U POONAM, WE MISS U
ALL THE VERY BEST
-gholla
@0.02Worth
Just a quick note before I head home..
I agree whole heartedly to most of your thoughts on Himesh. Especially that he does not deserve the intense hatred meted out to him in this forum and others as well.
The only two instances that I really am totally disappointed in Himesh is his utter trash treatment of Musarrat, especially the day Musarrat was voted out, and his larger than life lovestory that caused so much embarrasement to Sumedha and some extent to Amanat as well. I cannot explain these two instances off of Himesh. This guy is so private about his own life, which makes me believe that he should respect the privacy of others too. Else it points to double standards.
I have tried to find some reason to justify Himesh’s actions towards Musarrat, but have failed to do so. I still think there is more to it that that meets the eye in this Musarrat-Himesh story. Maybe all has not been revealed. I am willing to give this benefit of the doubt to Himesh. But until I know otherwise, Himesh stands guilty in my court.
Other than that, I am not a Himesh fan per se, though I do like many of his compositions. Nor am I a Himesh hater.
- Senty
one more thing..
after seeing Indian Idol 3 results, I have come to a conclusion that best person/singer will NOT win in a reality show.!
-gholla
@ALL ABOVE
I SHOW THE COMMENT FROM ALL ABOVE JUDGE (YOU ARE THE VOTER MEAN JUDGE)
AUR VO KAHAVAT HE NA..
BAHOT JYADA COOK MILKER KHANA KHARAB KARTE HE..
& I THINK THIS SPOILED FOOD IS ANEEK… I AM SURE.
Dear Sentyji:
My admiration and respect for you has ascended northwards, almost closer to the pole
I waited a bit but no one seems to be commenting to my post. In any case in all the hullabaloo and hate/conspiracies you have selected two critical issues which are foremost, so let’s address those.
Disclaimer: I do not have an insider track with Mr. HR and his PR so this will be a surmise and in that sense as good or bad as the rest of the theories doing the round about HR in the blogosphere.
About Sumedha, I have to agree that he was insensitive. But, as has been covered elsewhere(I read up a bit before responding) HR made sure that all 3 participants were made aware that this was a gimmick to raise the TRP and increase their popularity. In one particular episode he exceeded his brief and managed to annoy Sumedha(but HR made innuendoes, it was more Bappi Lahiri who went overboard and got away scot free leaving Himesh to face consequences). I am sure HR did not mean it and if there is an amount of boorishness in his behavior you can possibly blame it on the early conditioning in his life. Also, as I said in one of my earlier posts, Himesh is the type of person(in my opinion) who tends to get carried away and would at the same time (when he realized the magnitude of his idiocy) fall on Sumedha’s feet and ask for forgiveness and try to make amends.
About Mussarat, I think the whole thing has been blown out of proportion. Again, if you remember in my earlier posts I had said that maybe he was trying to caution Mussarat about his impending elimination on the basis of poor performances. But, also he managed to get Mussarat many a chance by getting him to sing Saanware and singing along with him etc… The Signal song was a gimmick gone wrong. Where HR was forced to select a funny song and he was incensed when Raja pipped Mussarat despite Mussarat giving a better performance. I think, in the Mussarat episode it was clearly an over reaction by folks in this forum. Mussarat was good in his genre, but as I have said earlier he is not NFAK no matter how much HR has said so. Mussarat seems to be still in Mumbai working on an album (nothing much to go back home for it seems..) and has quite a few Bollywood offers. HR is actively involved in promoting him as per my knowledge.
I quote you -
“I am willing to give this benefit of the doubt to Himesh. But until I know otherwise, Himesh stands guilty in my court.”
and
“Other than that, I am not a Himesh fan per se, though I do like many of his compositions. Nor am I a Himesh hater.”
I really appreciate the clarity of thought and honesty behind those two statements. I would suggest to everyone to adopt a neutral opinion as espoused in the second quote and not take an emotional stance.
Sentyji, about quote no. 1, actually its the reverse. In a court of law or real world – people are deemed to be innocent until proven guilty and not the reverse as you put it.
So as far as I am concerned the jury is still out and we need to await further developments before we castigate HR further.
The only thing HR can be deemed to be guilty of is to promote his wards and getting emotional when he perceives injustice. The alternative is for him to behave in a somnolent fashion like BL and go out riding in a big chariot…
-$0.02Worth.
@ 0.02
i dont claim to know HR personally,so i dont know whether he is a sweetheart in real life or not. i will judge him only on the basis of this show..
to me he stands for everything that is wrong with the contemprory music scene in india, too loud, too bombastic, no subtlety, no consideration for the feelings of others.. and his behaviour on the show has only perptuated this extreme feeling of revulsion for this man. to me he lacks class and all niceities of social interaction. he is hell bent upon imposing his views on others, whether they like them or not.. hell, he will force his opinions down your throat.he has a classic case of “foot in mouth disease” and he is not beyond manipulating people( even his own shishyas) to assuage his sense of self aggrandization and inflated ego..
he is also a hypocrite of the highest order, he promised mussarat ” rozi roti” v famously, lekin when time came for action, he was conspicously silent..
not only the hypocrisy, but the blatantly obvious way he favored one of his student over the other was shocking, to say the least.. what about all the rules of fairplay etc.?
then his harping on the social status of poonam was nothing but another example of “foot in mouth” disease that HR is obviously suffering from..
he is massively incoherent ( both in words and ideas) on stage, which is surprising for a person who has been performing for more than a decade..you would think he should be able to string together a group of sentences to express something comprehensible..
he has a HORRIBLE voice and he thinks he is the cats whisker because his CDs sell like hot cakes.. that has more to do with the poor taste of the music buying janta than anything else.. in any case he says he makes his music for rikshawwallas, so i guess he and his paying public deserve each other
now to his plus points:
he has produced some good music, i love tere naam
other than that i cant think of any other positives, the so called people he gave breaks to.. i havent heard anything from them,, where is vinit? hemu hasnt sung for HR AFAIK.. so no he hasnt been supportive of his ex alums.. i would say SLB has been more supportive than HR( parthiv, shreya, salamat have all sung in his movies)
in conclusion: i have listed some of the reasons why i think himesh is an insufferable wind bag who needs to be brought down to ground zero..
i remain:
president of the HR haters club
@0.02worth: damn I have to say ALOT, as if I don’t get away with saying ALOT already !!
1. Parthi gohil and hemani are visiting NY !
2. Jawinder singh was in Ny in december for “Kaifi aur mein” a play by javed akhtar and shabana azmi, jaswinder is a fmaily friend and a great guy.
3.Verbose is typically an IT term, I hope many of us bloggers are IT guyz and gals with alot of PSARE time !
and last but not the least, I don’t have a personal grudge against HR, he may have been from a humble background, the only objection I have is his audacity to cliam this show as himesh reshmiya show. I have never ever used the terminology prevalent in this blog. I guess we all are suffering from the fact that he has the capcaity to turn this music show into a controvercial Talk show. should you be sereneded with music from talented competitors or should you listen to , yes listen to pushing, shoving and making a POINT out of everything ? I am a big proponent of classical arts , and singing being in our blood, is definitely a divine form of performing arts, that is why some of the performances have this soul trapping affect on all of us. having said that, I completely agree and if I remember correctly I did mention in some post that versitility is just a joke, you cannot expect jagjit singh to sing a fast paced pop song and an opera singer to sing a dadra. what one does best is what they excel in. I particularly like mussrat and poonam bcoz of thier ability to control their octaves and take the sur to a max where ordinary mortals are just wondering how did they do it ?
I gues smore will follow.
mehfil
Dear Anonji:
We can agree to disagree, nothing wrong with that..
I have that kind of equation with quite a few very dear friends. If me and friends happen to agree all the time it tends to get v. boring…
Pls. notice I never said that HR is a very good person who has been besmirched unnecessarily. As Sentyji has said in quote no. 2 you do not have to like him or hate him to realize that maybe we were not so correct in our perceptions!!
Its a fact that Mumbai/Bollywood is a place where you have to shove, push , shout the loudest and manipulate as hell to get the tiniest inch ahead in life (as Mehfil says above). HR did not create this world, but he looks like he has learned the rules and goes with the flow. Does that make him evil ? Maybe not. Does it make him good ? Maybe not!! See that was the point I was trying to make about fuzzy areas as opposed to black and white.
He is helping out Mussarat as per my understanding. Also, sometimes back $ha$hi had posted some links which I tracked down and it appears he gave chances to Hemachandra, Himani and Vineet. He DID live up to his promise. Pls. verify this with your most excellent search skills. I do not think he is a hypocrite
The fact that he gets emotional, shouts and is not subtle tells me that he is not as smooth a manipulator as say Vishal and is a plus sign for me (he wants to succeed badly but is not a very manipulative and smooth person).
Again Bollywood and the marketing/branding world will tell you that even if you do not have a good product, shout and act is if you have the best!! People will program their brains to buy it and what’s more will also “taste”, “feel”, “hear” it as a superior product. So HR is living true to what any commercial organisation would do….Nothing wrong in self promotion isn’t it?
If you open your mind a bit and look at it from this perspective you might change your opinion slightly and that would be a start.
In my profession we use a terribly abused word called paradigm shift for this
Dear Mehfilji:
What a surprise!! Your enthusiasm is infectious
)
I am based in that area. NY should not be a problem for me, pls. do let me know if you have any more details. Yes I am loosely associated with the IT industry, good guess
. Though my english teacher would also use that word quite a lot (verbose). “Binary logic” should have also helped 
It’s also a fact that some of your points convinced me to this theory about HR. Mumbai/Bollywood is a unbelievably horrible and filthy place. Yes Mussarat, Poonam and Amanat stand out due to the fact that they so obviously have had training. Aneek also is excellent but has to mature a bit more I feel.
Pls. follow up with more as promised. Eagerly looking forward to it
-$0.02Worth.
interesting Lata Mangeshkar interview
Shridevi Keshavan
1) You’ve said you’re against the SMS system in reality shows. Are they bad formats?
Lata Mangeshkar: I don’t watch too many reality shows. ‘Sa Re Ga Ma Pa’ was one show I used to follow and then I’ve watched ‘Indian Idol’ once or twice. I feel because of the SMS system, the person who deserves to win loses out to the person who doesn’t. Their families cry and it all becomes quite sad. I feel that there is no need to hire judges if the show works on SMS polls.
2) You think judges don’t play any role in the shows?
LM: The television channel invites people like Asha Bhosle, Javed Akhtar and others. But from what we see, SMSs dictate the show. They should let these judges choose one winner.
3) Earlier, there was no such platform for aspiring singers. Isn’t this a good thing then?
LM: For generations, all singers have come up through sheer hard work. It’s true we never had a platform like this, but there was no compromise on hard work. The winners who come out of these shows are not really given a chance as playback singers. They end up being popular only for winning that one show.
4) Do you see any other problems?
LM: It’s all a money-making business for the channel. Through these SMSs, they make a lot of money. The singers sing Asha’s, Rafi’s and my songs and they are judged on that basis. New songs should be composed for these participants so that the composers know how well they pick up a song. Anyone can listen to a song a million times and learn it.
5) Will you suggest a new format?
LM: Many years ago, Anil Biswas and Naushad had traveled to the nooks and corners of India to find good singers; now I think that’s what makes an interesting start for a show — going to small villages and finding talent and then giving them a break. Let the judges decide upon one or two singers and offer them playback singing.
@ 0.02
I quote your comment on my quote :
“Sentyji, about quote no. 1, actually its the reverse. In a court of law or real world – people are deemed to be innocent until proven guilty and not the reverse as you put it.
“
LOL. Actually the exact same thought went through my head when I phrased this point
but then I thought about the (in)famous Scott Peterson case (you may or may not have followed this case) that was all over the TV a couple of years back. That exposed me to the american judicial system and Nancy Grace 
hence my “guilty until proven innocent” stand !
Seriously, I still hold that opinion,, unfortunately, about HR.. especially on that Musarrat elimination day, when after Raja’s performance, the entire guru-graph was on stage, the verdict was for all to see even BEFORE Musarrat had given his performance. And HR’s comment “Mussartji ab aap gaana chahenge ??” It was the most hurtful thing done/said to a participant on SRGMP that I have seen. And it is not about Musarrat singing better than Raja or vice versa. Just the way the comment came out and the timing of it, I thought it was very disrespectful towards Musarrat. It was like “Dude you dont stand a chance, do you still wanna do it ?”
I dont know how good or bad a person Musarrat or HR are in real life, but what I saw of HR was what I got of HR.
Having said that, I will be most happy to change my opinion if I hear the other side of the story that redeems HR.
Last, but not the least at all .. the respect is mutual and your posts are “B”-rilliant !
- Senty
@ 0.02
will make this quick
but the ” this is showbiz ,dog eat dog world, you gotta be a dog to survive” argument doesnt work for me…
i humbly submit that there are a LOT of people in the music and movie world who are nice decent folks, and if you have to be an insufferable obnoxious person to go ahead in life, then i am sorry, i have no respect for you, i care not a hoot what you have to do to survive aur aaap kitnnnneeee neeche se upar aaye ho
By the same analogy, women who sleep around to get movie roles are totally justified cuz “hey, thats what u gotta do to get ahead in the movie world full of lecherous directors”. Somehow doesnt seem like a sound argument now does it?? To me the ends dont justify the means
Likewise , the “his obnoxiousness is a sign of his straightforwardness ” doesnt carry much weight.. why? because my thinking is not convoluted to the point that i assume that the person who is NOT being loud, bombastic and obnoxious is being devious and hiding his true self. This type of reverse logic doesnt work for me
I would much rather give VS the benefit of doubt that they are infact NOT loud obnoxious windbags like HR, as opposed to the opposite notion
OK i have now sen that Vinit has sung one song for him,likewise Hemu. But I havent read anything about him working with Mussarat. please do put up the link here and i will stand corrected.
what about his treatment of sumedha on this show? i am sorry i refuse to find excuses for this man’s behaviour towards this girl, just to make his chela go ahead in a gosh darned music talent show..you may find justifications, but i dont feel the need to do so..
Now please be aware that this revulsion towards/ hatred of HR is only going to last one more week, after that I am not going to give a rat’s behind what he does , since a) I dont listen to his music anymore( ever since he began to torture us with that nasal intrument of destruction he calls his voice)and b)wont be exposed to his annoying presence on stage of SRGMP. At that point thing shall go back to status quo i.e utter and complete indifference on my part towards HR and what he represents to me of the current desi music scene.
So 0.02 cent ji, I will remain quiet consistent and principiled in my current opposition to HR.
anyhow, i have wasted enough time on this pathetic specimen ..
this will end any discussion of the nasal one from my side, my beliefs are unshakeable and unchangeable on this issue , until and unless the man does something on the upcoming show to redeem himself..
good nite all
I would not give benefit of doubt in this case, nor would i have remorse or guilt feeings calling a spade a spade Besharmia.
Some people never learn because a little bit of success gives them a grandeur God like feeling hence arrogance, SELF LOVE,
combined with insecurity= creating chaos in own life and arround them.
This is professional opinion of a psychiatry cosultant. ( FREE )
after observing verbal and body language of abnoxious Himesh in 2005 & 2007 saregamapa and reading bio & yes meeting him in a concert when he broght vinit on world tour.
he is all hot air no substance.
ok i accept my fault to watch this programme. not the next season though.
Dear Anonji:
Last post for the night:)
Thank you for posting the interview. I would agree with LM for the larger part -
1> Use Judges instead of SMS (No Brainer)
2> Train and test the contestants for a wide variety of songs(the sing your composition was a part of SRGM earlier).
I do think SRGMP does a good job of filtering the candidates down to the bottom 30 or so…
Also, despite the hard work some folks get the chance and succeed and a vast majority never get the chance. So in that sense I think SRGMP like shows can only help and there I humbly differ with the legend.
Dear Sentyji:
Hark back to the first couple of sentences in my post. My intent was to balance the pH. I never said that HR was a saint. I was one of the vociferous postees for the petition and other things which HR had done in my perception. But let’s not get carried away and inundate HR with hate. Purpose, as you no doubt know is to inject a contrarian stance…
But seriously the amount of hate which exists in society is fairly significant. We love to hate. Show a red rag to society and the red rag is torn to bits !!!
Lastly the “B”-rilliant part could be a double entendre
1> “B” grade rilliant (what’s a rilliant ??)
2> Brilliant with a capital B…
I prefer to imagine its the 2nd
-$0.02Worth.
@Rekha, @Senty, @Raj,
Thanks for the appreciation. Actually my idea was that we must have intervals in between the discussions going on in this forum, during which, people must relax for a while and read the shayari. Luckily, we have a kind soul like Gaffar Bhai on this forum, who has such a good collection of them. I am no match to this person, but still I am trying to write certain lines, in order to let this “Silsila” continue and try to soothe people.
I am glad that you people are enjoying it.
Thanks once again.
SWEETY
Hey guys whats up? With all due respect, I completely agree that we all have the right to our own opinion and I have been reading a lot of what has been said about Himesh on this site. Quite frankly I used to admire him and think he was a “rock star” and his run the top was very quick. But as I have been watching him more and more I have realized that his selfishness and arrogance is what hes all about. Whether its an act for the show I dont know but either way I find it offensive and at times quite vulgar. Okay fine u have made a name for urself in music and are new tryin movies, good for you, congrats. But honestly what gives u the right, especially in the respected position of “judge” to be so damn selfish and cut throat. You know if you didnt like the song choice (raja as an example) you can say it in a tactful way AS A JUDGE right? He continues to talk about Aneeks “love story” which DOESNT EXIST because he had proposed to his GIRLFRIEND before starting this show (confirmed) and really cheapens whatever talent Aneek has. By continuin to mention Poonams mom and sympathy votes degraded her talent. The way he carries himself is by no means modest and if thats the image he wants to portray what does that really say about the type of person he really is? Does he not realize that hes playing such a dirty game?
I had read one of the posts where it said “the end does not justify the means” well obviously Himesh does not agree wit that. If this is the way he wants to win with Aneek…then honestly I feel sorry for him. If he cant play fair and be an actual judge,they its a utter shame.
I just feel that his antics have degraded the show and as turned it practically into a circus. Im sorry to say that but thats how he is portraying himself.
I know some of u may not agree with me, and thats okay but I really felt I had let u guys know how i was feeling.
Hello there,
Why are you all so against HR. Aneek is the best singer of the whole lot. Hear the voice and not see faces to judge. So what if HR walks to stage and support Aneek after his perfomance. Be practical yaar.. apni be thodi izzat rakhu. Dont go against aneek just because you dont like HR. For your info whenever HR appeals for votes for a particular contestant, that singer tops in the following episode. See here his influence! Why dont u’ll stop all your nonsence against HR and Aneek.
@Gaffar Bhai,
I must admit that you are simply modesty personified. This is the reason you are most respected and liked on this forum not only by me, but by other members of this forum too.
I appreciate your philosophy of life. A true human being is one, who is beyond these man made boundaries of religion, caste and countries. Until and unless, we do not break these shackles of territory and religionv and do not treat everyone on this earth as our fellow beings, we cannot be called a true human being.
I appreciate your feelings for Poonam and am confident that the sincere efforts you are making for this utterly talented girl will never go in vain because I believe that however dark the path may be, ALLAH will enlighten you through your way to attain your motive.
The poem by Faiz is really very good as is the video by Begum Akhtar. Begum Akhtar’s “Ai Mohabbat, tere anzaam pe rona aaya ” is simply the best. Please send me the link to that, if you can.
I also want to thank you for your offer of supporting me in making contributions towards Arts and Music. It is a sort of encouragement for me and I will think towards it, seriously. Actually I am a Banker by profession and have to spend 8-9 hrs. a day in my work place. After that, very little time is left for anything else, but I am hopeful of doing something in this field, one day.
Keep posting the shayari, as the other members of this forum are also enjoying it, as gathered from their posts.
SWEETY
@0.02
“B”rilliant was 2>
I would never pull a fast one by saying I respect you and follow up with a mocking comment !
- Senty
@All – For all lovers of good music do visit http://saregamapashow.com/2007/09/non-srgmp-music-discussions.html
@to all who spoke bad about HR
Here are few facts-:
1) There are 10 to the power infinity good classical singers in India who donot get two meals a day.
2)There are many good singers who get overshadowed by the so called popular singers everyday. I personally believe that there are and were better singers than Lataji and Ashaji who went unnoticed just because of the control these two ladies had.
3) So, if you want to earn your bread by singing. Better have control, better know politics and better be ready to blow your own trumpet.
4) If HR is doing so there is nothing wrong because, when you are in Rome be as the Romans are.
5) HR atleast has the courtesy of not abruptly abusing any singer but gives high regards to all of them. He has never fired his gun from somebody else’s shoulders which singers like Abhijeet (Son of a gun) is doing.
6) HR’s popularity is by his own means and he has done whatever required to earn name, fame and money and I personally see anything wrong with this.
It’s so sad to see Poonam eliminated in this round. She just reaches in heart while singing, none has this capacity yet. Tho I have saved almost all the songs sung by her, but any great music director must take her in his future recording for great songs. We wanna listen her for long long time as she is true singer who sings by her heart and possess the great culture of Lucknow without any show-off even at this stage. Love u poonam, u r my emotion, accept love from your sister belonging to Lucknow too.
-@0.02
You are the master.
I appreciate your writing skills. It make good reading.
Keep posting.
Dear Anon:
I am happy that we have chosed to disagree but still do it in a friendly fashion
I agree with you and Sentyji that HR’s mannerisms and behavior leave a lot to be desired. But as Swapnenduji has pointed out a lot of very good talent(I am not saying HR is a very good talent) have never made it because the world is not a fair place.
In some ways shouting and interjecting comments is a violent behavior. People take to violence either to assault or to defend and again to commit injustice or to protest injustice. When we peace loving people see violence of any kind we abhor it. But, my point was, we need to find out whether it is defence or offence. That’s all
The other point being that circumstances/environment plays a role in determining the individual more than DNA or individual choices and this is a well known fact as jmKegeo would attest too. So if you need to blame, blame the environment more than the individual the individual is responding to the stimuli with an innermost reflex called the darwinian principle(survival of the fittest).
I respect your decision not to discuss this further and will not raise this topic with you.
jmKegeoji:
I have stayed in an area of Mumbai which has proximity to a lot of these bollywood and tv soap opera stars. I had association with the industry for quite some time. The industry is so cut throat that its like learning lessons from 10 Janam’s in one lifetime
A lot of the people(I would say more than 90%) of the people are loud, egotistical braggarts who cannot focus more than a few feet from themselves. Yet, if confronted with a situation can fall on someone’s feet and ask for forgiveness. They have massive insecurity complexes and very sad/bitter lives…I am not from your profession but these are my generic observations.
If you look very honestly and dispassionately, you will observe injustice and loudness in all the judges (and I mean all). Some are people conscious and subtle in committing these crimes others are not. If I were to venture an insight, I would say the reason we all have hated Himesh so much is that he does not give due difference to people but shouts/imposes his opinion. Are his opinions wrong ? maybe not. So if we are mature, we need to ignore the noise and do signal filtering/signal processing
Sentyji, I think both of us will understand this – There are serious times and there are times when we moot something. Maybe we do not believe it but are willing to look at the other side of the coin. Having been THERE, I admire the way you carefully couch your comments, your noncommittal thoughts, politically right approach…
Swapnenduji,
A very precise and logical deconstruction of the status quo!!
I wholeheartedly endorse your points and do not think a single point is off the mark. Pls. keep posting to maintain the balance of this forum.
Mehfilji,
You know jasvinderji ??!!!
Pls. do convey my respects to him. He was exemplary in his knowledge, humility and singing ability. What a voice, what an ability. I should not be comparing but compared to current contestants he was 1000’s of times better, way ahead….
-$0.02Worth.
@0.02Worth
I am little surprised to read your recent posts which is more like explaining possible reasons for Himesh’s behaviour on the show.
I think, each one of has struggled to achieve something in our lives so Himesh has not earned any extra “brownie points” for struggles in his life.
In general, the hardships in life can make you
either
humble, wise, mature and sensitive to other’s struggle (example is Poonam)
or
egocentric, brash, loud, eccentric and
insensitive
In my opinion, Himesh has shown signs of egoism, eccentricity and insensitivity to others.
But then it is my opnion.
Also, I must add that being a Scientist by profession I have difficulty in nullyfying the role of DNA in our responses to the external stimuli arising from our surroundings in this unfair world. I am not a big fan of darwinian principle (survival of the fittest) but do believe that evoultion within a class of organisms does take place for the sake of its survival.
So, if I have to apply my interpretation of darwinian prinicple then I would prefer to evolve myself to be able to survive the adversities in this world rather than working towards disappearnce of the others.
Again, it is a personal viewpoint and not that which should lessen the credibility of your opinions on this subject.
Best wishes
Rekha
Dear Rekhaji,
Waited and checked the whole day (time to drive home), it seems as if no one has a contra point so I will respond to your post.
It’s very nice to know that you are a scientist. Science still remains my first love and therefore it will be easier to explain this to you from the standpoint of the scientific method.
Above, I am not suggesting for a minute that Himesh is a saint. All I am saying is in the interest of scientific method let’s explore and ensure that there are no ignored dimensions when we model Himesh mathematically. Else out model will be highly inaccurate.
I also have more than a passing interest in spirituality. So while an attitude of wisdom and humility is good to be able to achieve self realization inspite of life’s struggles it does not help if one needs to be materially successful (or material realization). One is successful in a “worldly” sense when one is able to snatch what is owed to you and not concede the same with a wise tolerant smile. Even Bhagavad Gita or other sacred sciptures say the same. It will be a sin to surrender to oppression.
For example Poonam will never be as competitive as say a Mauli. But does that make Mauli a vamp? I don’t think so and similarly for Himesh.
In the jungle called Bollywood you have to be selfish, (you are noticed only if you are) eccentric and (will succeed only if you are) insensitive.
I would like point out two things in the interest of accuracy -
1> I did not nullify the effect of genetic determinism…I merely said the effect is “minimal” in the development of the “human persona”. Its very important for the color of the eyes but whether a person will be brash and garrulous as opposed to introverted…DNA impact is very minimal as compared to the environment. Man evolves by reacting or emulating the environment…
2> Darwinian principle when combined with a mentality/persona which assumes insufficient resources makes a dangerous combination. Such a person will ensure that survival is by hook or by crook. Which is what I pointed out earlier….In the food chain if predator_1 survives by attacking another predator_2 and annihilating it for the sake of survival…you cannot wrong predator_1. That is the law of nature…
Like it or not Himesh is acting for his survival against others who play equally funny games and he is doing this with the mentality that he can be knocked out anytime. Makes for a dangerous combindation…If he surrender’s like you suggest he should, everyone will write him off as a weakling. By the same token when he is fighting so efficiently one needs to wonder whether he is being “evil”? Probably not.
Pls. do not be emotional, don your scientific hat and think. You might not like it but does is the model more comprehensive ?
-$0.02Worth.
Sorry if you feel abusive but I am not abusive but truthful …. My Indian Bortehrs and Sisters are biased and they are always … and then say we are open minded.
You will agree by heart Amanat is best …. but you dont wanna know this …. Aneel is by no where is near Amanat and even his voice cannot be back voice for nay hero now days .. but Amanat has this ability ….
Sorry but truth is this.
@Anon
I just saw that video of Vijay prakash
http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=wIMkWYPd5-s&mode=related&search=
That was really something? where is he these days? Is he singing? He has incredible voice. I will look for some more songs from him and how well he sung that “barsat ki Raat’song. I never felt that it was not Mohd.Rafi singing. Incredible!!!!!
Ghaffar Khan
Dear $0.02Worth ji,
I read your response with great interest. I do not know how you got this impression that I would like Himesh to surrender.
And surrender to who or what?
Whose oppression he is facing on the show? If there is a real oppression then he must fight for his survival according to darwinian principle.
Honestly, I don’t have any idea what oppression or adversity he is facing on this show.
Yes, it is accepted that Poonam is not competetive as Mauli and being competitive does not make Mauli a vamp. But that also does not mean that Poonam will be less successful in life than Mauli. Poonam’s success as a person is already visible on this forum but Mauli’s name is missing. Please do not take me wrong, I have nothing against Mauli, I think she is a sweet person.
I myself have read Gita, Upanishads and little bit RigVeda and would like to say that one can be spiritual and materially successful without snatching anything from anyone. Possesing any materialistic thing is not bad but being obssesed with it can be dangerous because obssesion leads to snatching by wrongful means.
Being a scientist, I am not emotional but rational and would like to maintain still that DNA plays an important role in determining our responses to an external stimulus. Our genes are programmed in different ways to respond to the same stimuli. For example, many people may respond with a “Wow” to Mussarat’s song and many others may switch to Aneek’s song.
It is my pleasure exchanging views with you on this forum.
Best wishes,
Rekha
Dear Rekhaji:
In the last line of your post you have said that its a pleasure exchanging views. Believe me, its likewise from my end too. A civil discussion is ALWAYS fruitful.
Having said that, my posts are in response to your’s so you need to read both of them. If you read my post in isolation it might look ambiguous and result in mixed messages. So in this post, I am just going to respond to your current post (where you have addressed me as $0.02Worth ji
) and not digress or go all over the place. Pls. do read both of them together.
Ok -
1> Himesh and non-surrender /oppression (read your firs point and then read my response as below) -
I had said in my post-
“Like it or not Himesh is acting for his survival against others who play equally funny games and he is doing this with the mentality that he can be knocked out anytime. Makes for a dangerous combination…If he surrenders like you suggest he should, everyone will write him off as a weakling. By the same token when he is fighting so efficiently one needs to wonder whether he is being “evil”? Probably not.”
I think it reads very clearly that Himesh is fighting in his style with other judges in the show for survival. Thats what I meant that this is a fight and Himesh needs to fight, he does not have a choice…
About OPPRESSION(I did not mention ADVERSITY and therefore do not know where that came from). In a different context very early in my post I had said(do not mix this with above) -
“So while an attitude of wisdom and humility is good to be able to achieve self realization inspite of life’s struggles it does not help if one needs to be materially successful (or material realization). One is successful in a “worldly” sense when one is able to SNATCH WHAT IS OWED TO YOU and not concede the same with a wise tolerant smile. Even Bhagavad Gita or other sacred sciptures say the same. It will be a sin to surrender to oppression.”
So very clearly there is a fight going on in the competition with all the judges doing/saying unfair things and trying to win by hook or by crook. I think in this forum we have castigated all the judges for doing unfair things to knock off their competitor’s wards and to promote their own.
In this fight, their are two thing one can do -
1> Either smile and let things go as they do and trust God to take care of things
OR
2>Fight back as per your nature or Dharma(Dharma in BG means your innate nature and not religion).
So BG advocates people to fight back and that’s what Himesh is doing fighting as per his nature. His nature being molded by Bollywood is brash and loud and that’s all you are seeing. So is he evil by that token ??? You decide…
2> I do not know where you drew the inference that I am saying Mauli will be more successful than Poonam or whether Poonam will be more successful….All that is Crystal Ball Gazing, I desist from doing that. All I am saying there is that there are different types of people ….one is humble and adaptive, the other competitive. There is no yardstick by which we can say that this one is better and the other is not. I wish both of them success in life (in everything they do and as much as possible).
What I said was as follows -
“For example Poonam will never be as competitive as say a Mauli. But does that make Mauli a vamp? I don’t think so and similarly for Himesh.”
3> About the Bhagavad Gita (BG), I explained why I quoted it. To fight oppression and shaping of character…About being spiritually successful and not snatching etc. I do not understand where that came from and in what context. I never said that our scriptures advocate us to snatch or to be materially successful you have to snatch. These are derivations and interpretations. I thought I was very clear about what I was saying pls. do not attribute to me things which I do not say.
I will digress a bit briefly in an attempt to clarify my position. One can be spiritually and materially successful without robbing/thieving etc…but:
A> a spiritual person cannot compete very effectively in a dog eat dog world…a lot of enlightened people have said that once you embark on the path to spirituality you become honest, non-robbing, god-fearing, non gossiping… (The Yama’s and Niyama’s in the 8-fold Yoga path) and such a person becomes a tool to be used by this material world. Such a person is simple and innocent and in this world an easy meal for social predators.
B> Himesh is not snatching things from people’s plate he is fighting as he knows how to fight for his own success. The other’s are free to fight or be spiritually mature and walk away (I have yet to see the others are humble, wise or whatever you think is the right to compete/co-exist).
Can you pls. tell me that the other Judges are not playing funny games also ? Is there a single judge who is not doing/saying unfair things?
4> About DNA and the role it plays etc…pls read carefully what I am saying —
“I did not nullify the effect of genetic determinism…I merely said the effect is “minimal” in the development of the “human persona”. Its very important for the color of the eyes but whether a person will be brash and garrulous as opposed to introverted…DNA impact is very minimal as compared to the environment.”
I said that DNA HAS an impact(not nil but minimal, pls. read this part clearly). If one compares the impact from DNA to the impact from learning to adapt to the environment on the man’s mental responses to the environment, it will be clearly seen that the impact the environment has on a man’s “THOUGHTS”/”BEHAVIOR” is more than due to DNA.
Just to make sure that I am clear let’s take an example of a person born with normal(being a scientist you might ask me to define normal and I am leaving this to heuristic/subjective bias rather than empirical standards) sensory faculties. Now if this person is born in say Denmark the kind of music he will listen and the kind of music which will move him will be different than if were to be born in India. The way he will talk (politely, courteously and with a certain focus) will be much different than if he were to be born in say Kamathipura or Dharavi(extremely sordid slums in Mumbai, where people fight and kill for a roti a day).
The same DNA, but different environments. If you think this is not so, you are welcome to your opinions. But as a psychiatrist will tell you these are scientifically established facts. Parental and Societal determinism outweigh Genetic determinism.
The point being that people are not evil because they are being loud. One needs to make sure that one gets the signal from all the noise. People are offended because Himesh talks often, fast and loud. But what does he talk about? Is that wrong? Think about it.
I try to not mix messages and be extremely precise in what I say. My submission is that as in science let’s look at all sides of the coin to see whether that fits the criteria of similar repeatable outcomes. I am submitting we have not yet examined all sides. We have just seen one side and we are drawing conclusions. This is the wrong process scientifically speaking and will lead to wrong conclusions.
Lastly, I also enjoy exchanging opinions with people who believe in civil discussion
-$0.02Worth.
@Sweety
Thank you. I am already under debt of gratitude.As far as the contributibg to any of your programs , you will always find me there. No need to thank for that.
Here is a Ghazal from Akhtar Begum
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BteqVSAowA
Hope you will like it.
Ghaffar Khan
Here is the Ghazal that Amanat sang of Ghulam http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CH1HGNJVJCkali
This is a good one from ghulam Ali
Here is this very nice poetry of Mirza Ghalib in Pumjabi and sung by Ghulam Ali
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ge4BR56pWMw&mode=related&search=
Ghulam Ali’s another very nice one ,poetry by Baba Ghulam Farid ( Sufi)…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsaAtkfEHB4&mode=related&search=
Nice classical music & Sufi Kalam
Ghaffar Khan.
TO
arezoo_khairi
I M REALY UPSET POONAM ELIMINATED
WHY U R NOT AGRREE
1. RAJA IS GOOD SINGER
NO DOUBT
BUT HIS LAST 7 – 8 PERFORMANCE IS NOT SO BAD BUT THAT IS NOT SUFFICIENT TO REACH IN
FINAL THREE
ONLY TWO CONTENSTANT GIVE
CONTINUIOSE BETTER AND BETTER PERFORMANCE
BECAUSE OF FAN FOLLOWING OF RAJA NOT HIS SINGING
I HATE SAREGAMAPA BECAUSE THEY ARE DOING HERE PARCILLITY HOW
1 RAJA TOPPER
2 ANNEEK TOPPER
3 POONAM
4 AMANAT INDIAN VOTE CALCULLATION
AFTER INTERNATIONAL
1 ANNEK
2 RAJA
3 AMANAT
4 POONAM ELIMINATED
PLEASE SAREGAMAPA HUM ITNE BEWKUF NAHI HAI
WORLD ME JITNA POONAM AUR AMANAT KA NAM HAI
UTNE RAJA KO DUS PERCENT BHI VOTING NAHI HO SAKTI
ANNEK KI BHI HAL WAHI HAI
LEKIN YEH SUB CHAL BAZI HAI
AGAR
SAREGAMAPA CHAHATA TO POONAM FINAL THREE ME HOTI AUR
RAJA AUR ANNEEK ISMESE EK BAHAR HOTE
POONAM YOU ARE GOOD TALENTED SINGER
YOU NOT LOST ANY THING
SAREGAMAPA LOST YOU
AND PUBLIC LOST YOU TO SEE IN FINAL
AND INDIAN AND ALL OVER LADY CAMPAIGN YOU LOST
ONE SINGER IN NEW GENERATION
TO PROOVE AS MODEL FOR HUMAN BEING AND HOW TO KEEP UP WITH WILL POWER
POONAM GOD BLESS YOU
YOU ARE REALY WINNER
indrani said
aap ek aurat hoke asi bat kartee hai
aapko sh—— ani chahiye
she is top singer and she be top singer
this type of LADY
becuase INDIAN LADY IS REALY STRUGGLE
LADY WANT TO HELP LADY
AND GIVE EXAMPLE TO OTHER
BUT THIS TYPE OF NARROW MINDED LADY CAMPAIN
DOMINATE TO OTHER
INDRAYANI
AAP POONAM KE SABHI GANE SUNIYE
AUR TRACK KIJIYE
PPOONAM NE SUB KE GANE GAYE HAI AND SHE DONE WELL
AUR EK BAT
ASHAJI NE KHUD YEHI PLATFORM PE KAHA THA” POONAM AAP ANEWALI PLAY BACK SINGER HAI”
AGAR USKO KOI GOD FATHER MILA TO
RAJA DABBE ME DEKHENGE
@0.02 pff pff pff pff thak gaya yaar!! wotta discussion!!
It reminded me uncannily of the President’s speech to the nation on Independence/ republic day.. I have to look at it coz of my innate respect for the depth of the speaker’s knowledge but it is inevitably long winded, devoid of humor, full of premises for the future. Sorry to digress but HR’s uncouth behavior towards Mussarat cannot be explained away by any theories of Darwin, DNA. That man?? is solely responsible for the elimination of Mussarat at such a early stage. I can quote numerous instances when he willfully spoiled Mussarat’s chances in SRGMP.
Selection of Signaal, Not allowing Mussarat to sing Ghulam Ali ( His fave) Insisting on Mussarat singing HR’s songs & then proving he himself can sing it better(WTH!!) Many more examples can be given which only reinforce my belief that words that can do justice to HimAss Besharmiyya are uncouth, sloven,narcissistic,bombastic,vulgarian & egotistic humbug.
Dear Doc. Kaulji:
I was a bit taken aback by this post from you. But, I think you are absolutely right. Actually I am quite disappointed with myself too. Hey, Apologies all for these posts of mine (As Rekhaji will tell you there is a phenomenon of over-compensation when you seek to balance a system)
Thanks for comparing my proseltyzing sermons with the POI’s republic day speeches, I am Honored
)
Actually, this whole thing started when I examined myself in this context(HR’s) and was ashamed of myself.
The 3 questions I had no answers to are as follows -
1> No person can be totally evil or totally bad…so is HR so bad?
2> If he is, why I am taking the lead or joining in besmirching him and castigating him to glory (truly embarassed of myself there…)
3> Is there a good side to him ? or is there a reason he behaves the way he does which I am unable to appreciate because of my “holier than thou” attitude.
Hope that explains this quest.
-$0.02Worth.
Sajid
aap RAJA KE PARIWAR SE HAI KYA
AAPKO ITNA BURA LAGA
JARA HINDUSTAN KE BAHAR JAOO FIR MALUM PADEGA
INDIAN MUSIC KYA HOTA HAI
RAJA ON STAGE BECAUSE OF VOTING IF ON JUDGES
HE IS IN BIKANER
NOT IN FINAL THREE
HE IS NOT DESERVE FINAL THREE
HE GOT BAD WHEN MUSARAT ELIMINATED
BECAUSE HE KNOW HE SANG BAD
AND PUBLIC VOTED TO RAJA
THIS TRUE AND FINAL WHO IS DESERVE
THERE IS NO EXTRA ARGUMENTS
BECAUSE OF RAJA
YEH SANGEET KA VISHWAYUDH NAHI
YEH TO VOTTING KA VISHWAYUDH HAI
SUB KUCHCH DRAMA
AISA HO HI SAKATA POONAM KO INTERNATIONAL VOTE MILE NAHI
HAMARI INDIAN COMMUNITY ONLY VOTING FOR POONAM,
Tabbu
what a joke by indian public
TABBU
RAJA IS TOP AGAIN GOOD NEWS
SAWAL UTHENGE
1. LAST 7 PERFORMANCE BAD
2. HE IS NOT ON BAD SINGER WHY HE WAS NOT SANG WELL.
3. SOME EPISODE HE FORGET LYRICS
4. THEN COMMING EVERY WRITE SONG HAND
5. THIS IS NOT CAPABILLLITY TO ONE GOOD SINGER
SO
HE IS FINAL THREE
HE IS NOT DESERVE
TWO CONTENSTANT
DESERVE
AMANAT AND POONAM
YEH FINAL HO RAHI
RAJA +ANNEEK ( CONGRESS PARTY VOTERS WITHOUT THINKING GIVING VOTE TO CONGRESS PARTY)
POONAM AND AMANAT ( WITHOUT PARTY)
AGAR AMANAT INDIAN HOTA TO HE DESERVE EVERY TIME TOP AND WHAT ABOUT RAJA ?
@ Raj
First of all let me thank you for all the compliments to me and everybody here , you are so generous , you see, complimenting somebody is not easy , it takes a Big heart to appreciate. it is said that a generous person is not he who donates, but he who values and appreciate others. I have great respect for you , for your points and genuine appreciation makes this blog more inviting and interesting. Please post more and more. I would also like to take this opportunity to mention that I have learned a A LOT from here, just by going through everybody’s posts, I have imbibed a ton of knowledge, some links and articles( including the one that you posted) are amazing, all in a days work, I grab a few links and it makes my nights at home more interesting to catch up on all the links and read all the posted articles.
I have also made some Unseen, unknown friends ( including you ), I know I can raise a point, get a response, in favor or against and then raise another point ! so can you, and everybody else here. Yet I’m sad, I know that soon, this thread will be over ( Shashi, Can we please have this thread going ? or can we all be moved to a new thread somewhere ? Please huh? pleeeeeeeeezzzzz ! ), and with this thread I will miss a lot of genuine people, here is my two lines for most of the bloggers, in no particular order.
Senty, the Menti-Sental, who has been a prolific writer, interstingly articulate and at times refreshingly convincing, I think I have changed my mid atleast a dozen times just bcoz her arguments were thoroughly convincing, and I also appreciate her neat and crisp writing, I can feel the humor in most of her postings, and at times, I did laugh a Full throttled laughter .
0.02worth, is an extremely knowledgeable, and perspicacious writer, he enlightened me more than anybody else, I’d also like to admit that Amchi Mumbai, made me pay more attention to every word, what can one do when the written word smells like Mahim creek ? and at times as pungent as the smell of dadar, mahalaxmi, parel, bandra , juhu, villa parle , linking road, and blah blah blah. however, more than anything else, his eloquence and smooth phrasing made me a fan of his writing. Dude, keep it up, YO DA MAN ! also am headed for Mumbai in nov and will definitely convey your regards /Namaste/ satsariakal/ salam to jaswinder, I hope he is not traveling during my soujorn.
Ghaffar Khan, Here you have an example of an Astute Pathan, generous, openhearted , open minded and incredibly caring, I enjoyed most of his postings, mannerism and relevant ( and Irrelevant as well ! ) information. what more can I say except , Ma ta sara Der meena kum !
Anon, the craziest dude ever, if you cannot find anything, ask Anon, he will go to PATAAL and get it for you, his superb searching skills and excellent collection of links have made me Envious, I respect the dude also for displaying maturity in arguments.Chakde Anon !
Rekha, the diehard Poonam Fan, and the feminism activist, I salute her for sticking to her guns, and appreciate the input.
Dockaul, for some amazing esnip collection and postings full of links and relavant material, I hope he will write more and add more to his valuable collection.
Sweety, exhcnages between her and G.Khan have been very interesting, some cool poetry, links and communication skill are deeply appreciated. Please keep it up Gal, You Rock!
Its getting very Long, but bear with me for I have just a few HUNDRED MORE lines to go !
marinos from Greece, the guy always makes One and Only ONE point but it weigh more, It makes you Ponder, really ? do the sms and votes have any value ? Dude, You enthusiasm is infectious, and I appreciate all your post, though you can try and post more.
jmkego, the Psycho consultant ( with a free treatment offer for all ! ) is one of my fav. for analyzing in 2 words what us mortal need pages for ! hang in there jmkego, you FINAL ANALYSIS would be deeply appreciated !
I know there are more, regular and serious bloggers here, I can mention them at a later stage ( CAN I ? I know , I know, you guyz are exhausted, but a few more lines plz).
Here is the point : Swapnendu ( seconded by 0.02worth ) yesterday mentioned about mangeshkar sisters monopoly, I totally agree with that, being a mumbaikar, I recall a few incidence when I read/heard about their sole Rule in the female singing for bollywood. However, here is a fantastic example that you can Rule but You cannot stop the budding . Lataji used to sing over the tracks of junior artists who would then better the rendition by her sur,mastery and expertise. once she was given a song to sing, she heard the track sung over by an unknown singer, Lataji stopped right there and said, I cannot sing it better than this girl, let it go exactly like this, thus Kavita Krishna murthi was born !
Well, Time to say so Long , Kudos and Adios,
I will truly appreciate if you guyz seriously think about a regular blog, all in favor please raise your hands/ 1….2…. ? any more ?
Mehfil
I been reading these posts about HR.And looks like some good reserch work is going on on him that if he behaves that way why he behaves that way etc,.
I think things are simple in life. Let’s see .. I think let me ask all of you who are debating HR just one question ….
What is his job there( why is he hired for) ? simple…? Just answer this? simple one line answer to one line question. Just one line.
Thank you.
Regards
Ghaffar Khan
Hey Gaffar & Rekha
I am back after a hiatus! I was shattered with poonam’s elimination …Ek Dilke tukde hazar hue, koi yahan gira koi wahan gira…! But finally I am picking up these pieces as I have to come to terms with the reality! It is life! Though it hurts!
I am glad that now there r many more good souls rethinking about Poonam as a singer & a gr8 person! Though I would have still liked if they would have appreciated her singing talent first! I learnt about her adopted daughter in august from this blog
http://www.feedshow.com/show_items-feed=8a9b9e64ecf3b0caae7b0f606eb2aefb?page=1
I didn’t share bcse some people were talking about sympathy factor & I didn’t want to blemish her singing talent!May be I should have or may be not bcse HR was already damaging her by asking dua for her mother & then would have started for her daughter!Anyways,atleast I am glad that everyone came to know,Poonam as a real person who has gr8 human values & depth(at such age!)
About HR I have one thing to say that he is suffering from the “Attention seeking syndrome! That is the reason he gets on everyone’s nerves! There r some respectable ways to seek attention but he believes in Chhinke lunga! It’s always me, me & me! This way U may succeed (?) but won’t get
respect! Actually, as far as I am concerned, I get attracted to those people, who r not aggressive but do their work with devotion! That kind of energy always attracts me. That is the reason; I love Poonam, Mussarat, Harpreet & junaid! It will take me a lifetime to forget Mussarat & junaid’s faces on the eve of Independence Day & again on their respective elimination episodes! So much was written on their faces that u have to be blind not to see that! I really cried for them! Amanat is more worldly & smart among them.
Another thing I am worried about is actually Aneek! HR has made him to do such acrobatics for the last 2-3 months in front of national & international viewers that it has totally damaged his image. Now if he looses this contest & rewatches his own acrobatics as per the whims of HR—1) Dance & jump like a monkey
2) Go & propose to diya mirza
3) Fall in love with Sumedha, dance & sing around her & talk some rubbish on delicate love
4) Khao pyarki kasam!
& many more! He will seriously need the intervention of a counselor to get over that! On the upside, his father is psychologist so help is at home!
My friends call HR as predator!
Anyways, listen to mohd, rafi’s dilke tukde
http://youtube.com/watch?v=vSB7PLsbsVo&mode=related&search=
Don’t listen if u r feeling low! It is a sad song!
So now my vote is for the person who doesn’t do cheap antics infront of deepika! as the contest is no more inging contest so might as well vote for a better person!
BTW,mussarat is in india & he celebrated india’s victory in world cup by singing Chak de India!(Info by one of my aunts)
Wellcome back Basumatika. I know it had not been easy for you and neither it had been for me but one ahs to move on.You did right. Let’s see what comes next on this show. I don’t need to repeat, you know My opinion on HR and Aneek. so I will save words here. well, that’s a news that Mussarat is still in Bombay and that he celebrated India’s vsitory there. I am glad that Pakistan lost.Because there is No place in this world for idiots who can not plan or control there nerves. Plus, it could have been much better a side if Military dictatorship would have left alone the Pakistan cricket board to those who know about cricket. Dr. Nasim Ashraf( chaiman of PCB) is a Business man from USA who knows cricket as much as President Bush knows about where is Ukrain?.. For this reason , Mohd Yusuf and Shoaib Akhtar are out because they don’t accept his hegemony. I am glad that this defeat slapped his face & that of Musharraf too. Lesson: “Jis ka kaam usi ko sajhey”. get the military out of cricket.
regards
Ghaffar Khan
Dear$0.02Worthji,
Yes, I can definately support your statement “there is a phenomenon of over-compensation when you seek to balance a system”.
If that is the case, then all the comments are taken in the right perspective. I am happy that we had a very civil discussion although it is not done yet. I owe you a reply, especially, with reference to DNA and behavior (you see the scientist in me can not let go of things that easily).
Best wishes,
Rekha
HIMESH YOU ARE SOFT HEARTED
I DON’T BELIVE
BUT REALY ITS TRUE
HIMESH
WHEN YOU ARE GOING TO TOUR WE WANT YOU TAKE POONAM WOTH YOU
BHAGWAN TUMHE JINDAGI SARI BHARBHAR BHAR KE KHUSHI DE
AAJ AMANAT KA POONAM KA PERFORMANCE BETTER THAN OTHER
POONAM YOU ARE REALY WINNER
BHAGWAN TUZE AUR TERE PARIWAR KO AAJ KE BAD KABHI BHI MUDKAR DEKHNE NA DEGA
SHEKHAR AUR VISHAL JAB BHI
KOI BAHAR PADATA HAI TO AAPKE PAS
KOI NA KOI COPOSITION HOTI HAI
AAJ POONAM ELIMINATED HO GAYI TO AAAPKE PAS
KOI COMPOSITION NAHI HAI
AGAR ISE KARATE RAHENGE M
TO APKA N————–N HONE KO WAQT NAHI LAGEGA
BHAWAN KHALI SACHCHE INSAN KO ANT TAK SATH DETA HAI
POONAM AISI AWAZ JO KHUD BHAGAWAN NE BANAYEE HAI
AAJ SARI DUNIYA RO PADI
JAB TAK POONAM
HAS RAHI THI SUB HAS RAHE LEKIN AAJ
9 SAL KE BACHCHI SE LEKAR SUB RO PADE
@Gaffar Bhai,
While I am writing these lines, I am also listening to the Baba Farid’s Kalam in the beautiful voice of Ghulam Ali through the link sent by you. Thanks a lot for this one and also for the Begum Akhtar’s “Ai Monabbat” as also for the other links. I am getting richer day by day with the ghazals sent by you.
I am a fan of “Reshama” also. In my view, her best ones are “Meri hamjoliyan, kuchh yahan, kuchh wahan” and “Dekh hamare mathe pe, dashti talab ki dhoop miyan”.
SWEETY
@Mehfil ji
Thanks for including me in the list of your unknown and unseed friends of this forum and for your comments about me.
Your observations about other friends in your list is also very intersting.
Even I am going to miss all of this and I sincerely want to continue to write in the forum, on subjects other than SRGMP. So I raise my hand to let this forum remain in existence always.
SWEETY
aneek is no 1. raja can sing only a special type of song . no versatility.amanat also is too classical, But aneek is a perfect playback singer and youngest of the lot. he should win
it’s a shockingh news to everyone that poonam is out from saregama.
This all happened because of Himesh reshmiya, i don’t know what he wants to show to public…he is always against RAJA just to save aneek.
So guys, please forget HIMESH RESHAMIYA (selfish guy) and vote for RAJA OR AMANAT.
Himesh is loosing his fans by his poor comments by dominating other singers, He don’t know what to talk.what not to…??????/
Wish Himesh will be soon out of saregama……
Mehfilji:
What has come over you, samhalo apne aap ko. Hum sabhi bhav vibhor ho rahe hain…LOS (Lots of Sobs)
I need to pay back some of the back-handed compliments you have dished out to me and there will be a time and place where I will repay in kind. Meanwhile thanks foe the special mention and you all will be missed if this discussion board disappears into the cemetary of virtual land.
Maybe we need to design an eulogy for that time ? Is this what this is?
Ghaffar Sahab:
Pls. read my posts. That’s the distinction I have been trying to make between simple and simplistic. There could be a wide variety of responses and if you ask Himesh himself he will say each ward of mine is like family and its my duty to provide roti for my family. Who can dispute that and say that HR has the wrong sentiment.
Dear Rekha:
Genetics, specially genetic algorithms used to be more than a passing interest for me at one point in time….
http://www.ornl.gov/sci/techresources/Human_Genome/elsi/behavior.shtml
This is a link on behavioral genetics. Pls. read the 1st para on:- How is behavioral genetics studied?
Clearly illustrates the impact of DNA on human behavior in scientific terms.
For further reading on evolutionary psychology -
http://www.hbes.com/intro_to_field.htm
I know this forum is not right to discuss this kind of stuff…but the alternative is email.
I am available at 0.02worth@gmail.com
-$0.02Worth
@Mehfil – Thanks for the acknowledgment. Regards my infrequent writing what is there to write about!!??.. Mussarat gone.. Amanat will definitively go.. This blog had unfortunately degenerated into a Incessant maulding shouts of HornyEEk fans insisting on him being the best.(preferably in CAPS).I am more at peace in the non saregamapa music discussions, discussing & presenting the best music for all music lovers.
Hope this rigmarole of SaraDrama get over at the earliest & then we forge a lifetime of companionship among lovers of good music.
@Mehfil,
Thanks for such an elegant descripition of all the bloggers and also for including my name in this list.
I must say that you have guessed it right. I also label myself a feminism activist (although not an extreme one), and I do get into trouble often because of this with people around me. Pur kya kare, yeh toh DNA ka kasoor hai.
Your comments about Mumbai reminded me of all those summer vacations I had spent with my family in Andheri West (saat bungalow). Good luck for your trip home.
I am in favor of your idea of having a regular blog or if possible keeping this thread open and making it even more longer with our input on various topics. So count my hands (both).
Rekha
@ Sweety & Gaffar Bhai.. The moderator $hashi has very kindly given us a separate post for music discussions on my & Senty’s request’ I would request all interested in the same to please visit
http://saregamapashow.com/2007/09/non-srgmp-music-discussions.html
& post your faves
Hi all !
I want to share a good news with all the Musarrat Fans on this forum. He is still in India and perhaps busy doing shows here.
He was in a press conference today afternoon, and at this very moment, is performing in a show at Bhopal.
Well, this a good news for all of us that this soulful singer is still in India and is trying to do something great in the music world.
My good wishes to him. !
SWEETY
@ $o.o2 worth
wQestion was not about simplicity . Quetion is “what is his job there’? Why is he hired? I am not asking Hamesh why is he hired. I am asking people here why Hamesh is Hired? to do what? what everyone think?
Anyone can answer me?
Thanks
Reagdrs
Ghaffa Khan?
@Sweety
Thank you Sweety. I am glad that you liked the videos that i put here for your review. I will keep posting in the future as well. I think this is a very good exchange of information. I am getting richer too by listening to what you and others posting here along with beautiful poetry. Keep up the good work.
regards
Ghaffar Khan
@ Dockoul
Thanks for Dockoul & Snety’s efforts for securing that chit chat place. And special Thanks to Shashi for making this provision for us. thank you. I will keep posting and will be glad to see all you guys there.
regards
Ghaffar Khan
Hey Basumatika,
Glad to see you back. Myself and Ghaffar bhai were missing your post.
Things will be fine for Poonam so let us not feel bad anymore.
Hey Sweety,
Let me add litte more sugar to your sweet news. Mussarat gave a live performance in Delhi (Noida) and people were totally mesmerized by his singing (information provided by my sis).
So looks like Mussarat is going to make it big time.
Rekha
@Basumatika
Yes, I agree with Rekha’s statement that she and I both missed your absence here. But We welcome you back here. Things will take care of themselves and this is not end of the world for Poonam anyway.
@ Rekha
Where does your sister live? I am sure that such performances somehow are posted on youtube too.So, let’s wait and see. Do you have any more details about Mussarat’s performance? I will be glad to see Harpreet joining him. I can tell you due to my observation, they two are very good friends.
Reagdrs
Ghaffar Khan
Dear $0.02Worth,
Thanks for the links.
I will definately do some reading now before we start phase II of this discussion.
I have noted your e-mail address too.
Rekha
@ rekha
how exciting about mussarats concert in delhi( how i wish i was back!)
ne how hope we can make amreeka tour happen.. mehfil ji please use your good offices to expedite the same
@mehfil
aapne jo izzatafzai ki hai uska bahut shukriya. ! this has been a fun place for music lovers like us..
hope this blog will continue its transition into a functional forum
btw, its dudette:)
lol..
lekin this is cyber world, ki farak painda hai
@Mehfil
Thanks for the nice things youve said about me
The bloggers in this fourm are indeed stupendous ! This is my first blogging experience in a public forum and I must say its been my pleasure. About your idea for a regular blog … count me in. I dread to think about reverting to the old regular boring dull monotonous pre-srgmp life.
Please do visit the non-srgmp forum for some quality non-HR fun.
Woah… non-srgmp = non-HR !!
@anon
DUDE…You are a DUDETTE ?!??
- Senty
@ senty
yes indeed!
altho besharmia has brought out the distinctly non- lady like part of my personality he he..
remember everyone thought u were a dude too back in the day?
nehow,it will be sad to get past srgmp 07 howsoever crappy it was in relation to SRG;s of past ..there was some real music..some real discoveries, and we will never be the same again,after being subjected to the onslaught of himesh-ism’s.
nehow the show is going out with bang..tonight..
tommorow’s OSO show sounds like business as usual( i.e the nautanki that it degenerated into in the past month)
@Gaffar Bhai
Vidya
Dear $0.02(billion) worth jee -
First of all I would like to thank you for paying attention to even my most inconsequential posts.
I cannot write much at the moment, as I am still in a trance (just finished watching/listening to the ghazal/semi-classical episode a couple of hours ago).
All were great! Amanat was special, in keeping with my hunch!! Poonam’s classical rendition was… well.. something else!!!
Aneek and Raja also succeeded in touching upon some inner strings.
Somewhere you wrote to me –
“See that’s the difference when you use a judge panel as opposed to SMS and the Judge panel on that year was crème de la crème”.
I am the most vociferous advocate of inviting/employing panel of judges comprising musical virtuosi. SMS has been the worst thing for the real music lovers in recent years.
And you also said somewhere -
“I should not be comparing but compared to current contestants he (Jasvinder Singh) was 1000’s of times better, way ahead….”
After watching/listening to today’s performances I hope you will modify your opinion. The current contestants have rarely been given songs of the level that were given to the contestants of Jasvinder Singh’s period.
After watching himesh’s facial expressions throughout today’s show, I would stick my neck out to say, for all his excitabilities and idiosyncrasies, he is a nice and emotional person at heart.
Your each post has been a treat to read. Keep posting.
By the way, “billion” is not intended to be tongue-in-cheek or sarcastic.
Regards
~Sumitr~
Hey anon,
Honestly, you tricked us all. Well, I am very happy to know that you are one of us (woman members of the bloggers club).
I also wished that I was in Delhi to attend Mussarat’s concert.
May be in future, right here in amreeka, let us hope.
Rekha
Dear Mehfilji:
I second your request for a forum to enable us to continue these discussion and the non-SRGMP forum is one place we can all meet up.
One of my fellow Mumbaite(who had been to mumbai recently) once said its a Pig Sty now. Well, I do not mind (in fact I am happy to be) wallowing in the much
One question for $ha$hi is: Exactly what will happen once the show is over? Is this site going to be purged? or Will it be converted into something more permanent and all these posts archived? Will that something be like a threaded discussion forum?
Rekhaji: You are from Saat Bungalow ??!! I am from Lokhandwala
Nice to meet you here.
Dear Anonji (or should I say Anonetteji
now? )
You are right in the cyber world it should not make a difference, but also in the real world also it should not make much of a difference. Human’s first and then anything else
Dear Sumitroji:
Thanks and Thanks. I have responded to your post in the other forum where you have posted the same post
Dear Sentyji:
Consider me your alter ego. You are Sentyji and I 2 am centyji
(or should that be 2 centyji ?).
Have enjoyed your posts. Will switch to Non-SRGMP soon. If that forum also dies, itne bade cyberland mein der saber kahin na kahin to mulakat hogi hi…Give my regards to Ustadji(is na cheez ko bhi itne badi hasti ko virtually milne ka yeh mauka hasil hoga to bahut khushi hogi)
-$0.02Worth.
@Anon
Dudette, I’m speechless ! what can I say ? I can REWRITE the whole description replacing his wit her. But I guess I misunderstood, though I think I should have been Articulate !
I appologize for jumping the Guns !
But I’m NOT taking back anything, Your searching skills are examplary, I envy that, though I have been searching forever for something or the other, I do not have that perfection ! You Rock !
Looks like Men are being Outnumbered here, but please think about my idea of a regular blog where MUSIC in general could be the prime reason for discussion. Besides , don’t you think we all are going to be extremely bored after the SGRMP ?
I would !
Regards
Mehfil
@Vidya
Thank you Vidya for the simple answer for simple question.
Yes, he is hired to “judge”. And Judge should be what? yes.. yes.. say it? What?
Impartial ? right ?.he should be impartial else he disqualifies. All of you who watched SRGMP , tell me how HR did his job for what he was hired for?
I don’t want to know his past or future or his DNA. I don’t care about it. All one wants from him that he does his job right for which he is hired or if he can not do that honestly then do not take that responsibility at all from the beginning. Again, he is not fighting any battle for his survival. He doesn’t need to. This program is about participants not about him. His job is to judge, judge ,judge ,, impartially and honestly. End of story!!!
when I used the word “thieves” people were very offended here. Now, You tell me what is that a judge trying by hook or crook to make one candidate win while he is supposed to be judging all according to their talent and save unneccessary comments or personal opinions to himself. If no one has courage to say the truth, I do have that and that’s exactly what I did. And people can expect the same from me in future as well.
Best Regards
ghaffar Khan
Wah Wah Wah wah wah Bhai wah..Kya Awaz hai.. Hum to pandit jasraj kay diwane ho gaye… I am looking for his classical work online.. What a Voice. what a voice.. what a control.. Aur kya sur hain.. Khuda apko zindigi day pundit sahib.. Bohat bohat saal hamare aur sab kay liye aap Jiyan…
Hamain to pandit sahab pagal kar gaye wah bhai wah..
wha Kya awaz hai.. Bhagwan bolta hai punditji kay galay mein..I am surprised …
I am seriously thinking now to bring him to a Mehfil here with us in peshawar. Wah wah,.
Regards
Ghaffar Khan
Here are original videos of original singers…
Sung By Amanat Ali..
1) sung by Ghulam Ali
HUNGAMA HAI KYON BARPA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CH1HGNJVJCk
2)Albela Sajan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6uJZwHNWOM
Sung By Raja
3) original from Ghulam Ali
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOqAajDNDKg&mode=related&search=
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Wah Wah Wah wah wah Bhai wah..Kya Awaz hai.. Hum to pandit jasraj kay diwane ho gaye…Bhagwan Bolta hai Pandit jasraj kay galay Mein. I am still in shock.. Kya Gaiki hai..control, command, Soooz.. that hit the soul directly.. Devine voice..
Long Live Pandit sahib.. Bas Khuda apki awaz ko hamaray oopar salamat rakhay… This Voice of yours is an asset for whole humanity not for India and pakistan only.
I wasn’t wrong when I said that the final should have been in Yalghar Gharana Only with the two best quality singers , better than anyone there..
Here Is what Pandit said and Jagjit singh..after Amanat’s last performance and almost similar remarks for Poonam.. Of course she is No.1 as well.
ID says, being a guru, I have changed the composition a bit for Amanat.. he sings Albela Sajan sung by Shankar Mahadevan, Ustad Sultan Khan, Kavitha Krishnamoorthy.. what a performance
Comments:
Shekhar gives standing ovation..
ID – he comes on stage and says, He shouldnt be here, where he is now..
Pandit Jasraj – You are Amanat for Hindustan.. You are number 1 for us..
Jagjit Singh – You are best singer of SaReGaMaPa..
Shekhar – You have a magician in your hand, dont leave him at all(He was pointing at ID)
Regards
Ghaffar Khan
@Dockaul ji,
Thanks for the information about the site for non-srgmp-music discussions. BTW, I am glad to meet you through this forum.
I think it has become a part of our daily routine to exchange views with each other through this forum. This mutual exchange of information on music and other subjects is getting interesting day by day.
So let us all move to the site suggested by you.
SWEETY
@ mehfil
no worries yaar
a gender neutral handle and most ppl assume u r a dude..
i think i will have to credit 0.02 with bringing a lot of class to the discussion here.. it is not that hard to disagree without cussing the other person out ..
of course idiots like him-ass are off limits from any expression of decency from my side.. too many cumulative incidents of sheer crassness and undignified behavior from his side to deserve ANY good will from me
@0.02Worth and Big Apple Bloggers.
Dude ( please tell me you are a dude ? I have been wronged once already ! ), I totallay forgot about the parthiv Gohil and Himani concert, here is the link
http://newjersey.sulekha.com/events/Music/2007/07/amar-sangeet.htm
I hope you will be able to secure a tkt , also gate crashing wont be such a bad idea !
Mehfil
@0.02worth and Big Apple Bloggers
Laos check this out , this event is just a day before the concert.
http://newjersey.eknazar.com/Events/viewevent.php?id=27586
Mehfil
@all
Where is everybody ? Looks like this thread is at the end of its cyber life !
If anybody knows where the rest of the gans is, please post a link. Its horrible to be lurking here by ma self !
Anyone ? Where Art thou senty ? 0.02 Worth ? Anon ? Sweety ? Ghaffar khan ? Dockaul ? Rekha ? Sumitro ?
Oh well….
Mehfil (Soni Mehfil mein Tanha )
@Mehfil
Looks like app sachi muchi raasta bhool gaye.. but dont worry mat karo.. Main hoon na !
With the new updates for this weekend, looks like the “spoiler” has lost its charm.
Yehi confoozun mitane ke liye some time back a non-srgmp thread chaloo hua. Slowly but surely I hope all these musical posts and links will get migrated and archived in one easy to reach place.
http://saregamapashow.com/2007/09/non-srgmp-music-discussions.html
- Senty
Mehfilji:
Thanks for the links, will let you know how the program goes. I am still a dude, however in this virtual world you never know when the change will occur!!
Sentyji:
Actually now I figured it out your name is Senty not because you are sentimental or anything like that.
Its because you are the Sent(y)inel!!!
You keep a watch for the lost souls…
What a revelation!!
-$0.02Worth.
Mehfilji:
jara mun uddas dha, Poonam ka gana sun kar, aur uska elimination dekh kar, pur kohi baat nahi dheere dheere recover kar rahi hoo.
Rekha
@Centiji
thank you for being around, I was wondering if I’m lost in the MELA of zindagi ! as long as You are around, I know I’m not alone, bus aasheerwad honi chahiye !! dhanny ho.
@0.02Worth
Dude ( I’m still reluctant to call you a dude ! You scared me by saying ou never know when the change will occur!!)but nice to know that you too are visiting this page, the Non SRGMP link is also quite. But we will get togather from monday , right ?
@rekha
Dudette (?)It was really a sobbing ( and sobering ) moment to watch poonam go, people come and people go, but some people go with a piece of us, I must say that except of Mauli, almost all of them have taken a part of me with them. I’m quite sure that poonam will do well in life , after all, there is always light at the end of the tunnel, but for once I agreed with HR that there is no competion between a male and a female, even in tennis there are separate games b/w female and male. Not that men are superior ( God forbid ! ) but just because you cannot compare a rose ( female) to a gobi ka phool !!
sadma tou bohut hai, lekin Hope bhi hai ki million are praying for her.
regards to all
Mehfil
Dear Mehfilji:
I do not participate in any forum. This is the first forum I have actively(well that word might be debatable) participated and that too only because I have been an avid SRGMP follower right from 1995!!
In fact I used to also see the earlier SAB TV show where Sunidhi Chauhan was discovered(she was such a tiny tot at the time, which also indicates how long a tooth I might have!!).
Also, still a dude and unless I see significant advantages in converting will continue to be one
For me, leaving aside emotions, Poonam was the best singer in SRGMP. Last year it was Nihira and Hemachandra. Its pathetic, that people of this high quality loose year after year. I would agree with Pt. Jasraj and urge Poonam to take up Shastriya Gayan. She would be wasted singing today’s “Jonur”. Although, that might mean 10 more years of penury. Since people nowadays are not at all interested in anything remotely connected with Classical. Its all techno and hip-hop for aaj ka hero (not even classic Rock!!).
Not too sure what else to discuss, the non-SRGMP one is good for mostly Ghazals
which is good..but Ghazals for me is like poetry recitation and not so much gayaki.
Will check in from time to time. Maybe we can converge in some other forum, sometime….
The 28th/29th Video threads are like Bhendi Bazaar(the street not the Gharana
) So I might not participate.
-$0.02Worth.
@Mehfil
Thanks for cheering up, comparison between a rose and a gobi ka phool is pretty good. I wonder what kind of phool or FOOL is HR although that is the only intelligent thing (no comparisons between male and female singers) he said on this show.
Actually, you have a point. Poonam should be declared winner among the girls and should be given some music contracts by Zee TV.
You are right, she will be fine, it is just that I felt REALLY SAD for her.
A good news posted by Basit that you may have already seen on the latest link. Mussarat is coming on a concert tour to US and Canada in Nove.
Rekha
@0.02worth
Dude (Thanks for being one at this crucial Juncture ! ), I am not a regular blogger either, but I have been dropping my opinions on various occasions in different forums. Whether you agree or not, there is a genuine need for Good music blog in general ,sangeet, shastriya sangeet and all the prevalant JONARs( dude, way back when they used to write “genre”, am I too archaic ?) where you could share, argue/ and even fight without profanity. I read all the other blogs on this site and was totally appalled by the language and DICTION of most of the bloggers and hence I chose to stick to the few Tried and tested friends who actually understand music and whose arguments are based on faculty as opposed to emotions. I like to hear, listen and even confront, but only with the people who I can assume are perceptive enough to receive a point well and send a mind boggling “REASON”, “FACT” home, or something that I may not have considered. That is EXACTLY how I process information, well, they say garbage IN, garbage OUT ?
I am OK with being a “Neophyte” as far as Music is concerned, for I have total faith that one form of art that will never die ( as long as people can utter!) is Music, and by that I am particularly referencing to Our Brand of Music, Shastriya sangeet, Desi Jonars, bhajans, qawwali,keertan and Ofcourse Bollywood. My Guru once said, all those songs that you start singing at the drop of a hat are those which are based on SHUDH raagas and Thaaths !
The Point is …. You should create a Blog, and if you want you can invite people by invitation or maybe you can let it be open for as long as they maintain their sanctity ( well at least a healthy place to visit ! ) are you thinking about it ? still ?. Absolutely !!!, the other blog on this site was exactly like Bhendi bazar, it even sounded like the Pude-zala, pude-zala !
@Rekha
Dudette, I did read the Post by Basit and also heard the “WORD” from bhopal, , about mussarat’s show there, it was a huge sell out event and as DAINIK BHASKER reported, there were a gazillion gate crashers as well, but it was not just Him only, there were other contestants as well, who ? The newspaper fell short of reporting that. Also the process of inviting him is still on, with very little success, apparently there is no manager/agent to discuss details with yet, but the process is still in full swing, if the Information about his visit to canada and US is credible, we can definitely get to the bottom of this.
AS for poonam, what can one say ? She does need a “GURU” and somebody who can give her a break, being from the tinsel town, I know that You need one Hit, and the industry is at your feet, most of the filmmakers are extremely superstitious, they tend to stick to their fame “JODI” and their tried and tested Music Directors and singers, no film of Rakesh Roshan can begin with any other Letter but “K”, Obviously when you are investing a ton, you need divine help and the asheerwadh of every deity. But then again there are BREAKS for everybody, she needs to be PUT in one spot, I am quite DEFINITE she will be all over the place, but pathetic as it may sound, Nobody, Nobody has committed anything to Her as yet, she does not need charity, and even shows allover india, she needs one Hit in Bollywood, and she will deliver. she has a gift of her beautiful and Powerful voice, She needs Just ONE, only ONE chance, and she will MAKE IT ! The days of monopoly in Indian cinema are over, and never again a Sulakshna Pandit will go songless, bcoz of MONOPOLY. I hope that the so called MENTORS will come up with some sort of an OPENING for her, we in the meanwhile can only pray and wish her all the best! BTW , your passion for Poonam’s cause is Commendable !
Reagrds Mehfil
@Mehfil,
So correct, the bollywood film industry is full of superstitious filmmakers who are also greedy. Art ke naam pur kaya trash movies bunti hai.
This league of filmakers is joined by lyric writers and music composers, and together they have taken away the soul of movie music. Honestly, I still can not comprehend the meaning of dard-e-disco or whatever. Who wrote this song? Anyway, I am not planning to go and see Farah Khan’s movie.
I am a VERY big movie buff, but can not sit through such type of movies.
When Pandit Jasraj ji told Poonam that she is born to sing shastriya sangeet, I hoped for a moment that he will welcome her as his shishya.
Imagine, Pandit ji and his shishya Poonam, perfect combination of Guru and Shishya. Guru ke baat pur, if Ismail ji can compose a song like “albela sajan” he can definately give a chance to Poonam knowingly that she will do full justice to it. As you say, she needs just one hit song and he can certainly do that much for her. Hopefully, our prayers will be heard by most gracious Lord Ganesha himself, and that also very soon.
Regards,
Rekha
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Thanks $hashi for putting this thread on the main page. By the way what happened to the petition. Please let us know if anything can be done, or will benefit Poonam, in anyway.
Should we try to help her settle in Bombay. If you are in a position to ask her, please let us know her future plans. Also whether she is willing to settle in Bombay.
Shashi,thanx for including this thread of poonam’s elemination here. But seriously,time is value now! it’s only 3 days to go for finals.i hope that u post the petition on line.13th will be over & everyone will forget SRGMp & will carry on with their lives.poonam will fade away in everyone’s memory.
I sincerely feel that poonam should get appreciation in finals as she is the most powerfull voice on SRGMP.She has given all her performances 100% & one performance due to cold was only 99%(?)& no one pardoned her & she got eleminated.All other contestants have given several bad performances & r in finals now!
I request u to kindly put the petition on line!
All music lovers pls support poonam to get the award as best female singer of SRGMP!
Dear zee,
By now Poonam yadav has been declared as the best female singer on saregama 2007! I feel that her elimination was unjust! She should have been in the finals as she is the most versatile singer on saregama! Her singing is soulful & divine! She can sing melodious, classical, as well as masti) songs! According to many of us on this forum, she is the most powerful voice on saregama! Even pundit jasraj complemented her classical singing ability! But unfortunately she is the most underrated performer! None of the guru’s took a special note of her, except HR, who emphasized on her poor background & damaged her rather than appreciating her singing talent & helping her!In her elemination episode,she requested all mahaguru;s to help her in her singing career or help her find her a guru but no one came forward! i am totally disappointed by ID,VS & HR.
By just declaring her as the best female singer of saregama won’t help! We would like Zee to award her as the best female singer of saregama & award singing contracts along with some cash prize to her! Sincerely she deserves it! Many of us, her ardent fans r trying to raise some funds for her! Pls do something for Poonam & don’t let her go back to Lucknow into oblivion! Pls. support her stay in Bombay till she establishes herself as a playback singer in bollywood or help her to find a Guru to pursue great heights in classical singing. This is a sincere request from Poonam’s fan club!
Ashraf
Buddy,i will be in Sandiego & Orange county for the next 6 days.As & when i am free i will look into the forum.But my dear friend,u keep on raising the voice for Poonam tilloct 13th.i am sending another email to Zee.Nothing like trying bcse that is in our hands!there is still a 1% chance of miracle in this case but i am ready to fight for that 1% bcse i do not want to disappear from this planet with the guilt feeling that i could have done something for Poonam’s award & i didn’t!
i am very proud of u for ur support to indian koel Poonam!.Thanx a lot! i will be in touch!
@All Poonam’s fans
I think petition is not gona help her in anyway..what we can do is send emils direct to Zee..
But when we think from Zee’s point of view, they havent stated that there will be female winner..So I feel that we shoudn’t expect too much from Zee..Poonam has got some Tour contract from Zee..
What we can do is to help her in her future plans..May be we can set up Fund for Poonam’s album (If she ever wants)…We should be in touch with her and should help her in any means…
I haven’t spoken to her so I am not sure about her future plans..I think Rekha will enlight about her future plans..So lets see what we can do..
Hi $hashi,
Thanks for your comments and thoughts. I believe all of us will appreciate what you have written. I also came to know that Poonam will be on the North American tour with other contestants, courtesy Zee. This is a really good news. Through this competition she has become a well known face. Even bollywood people might have also taken note of ther talents, though none has repsonded as yet. Perhaps this could be the lull before the storm. Even Lataji and Ashaji didn’t become what they are overnight. It took them several years of struggle to attain their present status. I have already posted on other thread of our forum that there already are two sponsors willing to organize concerts for her. Plus we also have people like you and others on our forum, ever willing to espouse her cause. So, to sum up her future does not look all too bleak, there are several silver linings.
Dear Shashi ,Basumatika,
I am crazy of POONAM’s singning. not only me , My family too. I am ready to give a share if anybody is going to collect the fund for POONAM’s album. she has been injustified in SRGMP. She is the real winner of the show. i never watch any episode of SRGMP after her elimination,b’coz with out POONAM’s perfomance this show not at all look’s like show,but it is a circus. i m very very very very happy after came to know that she has been awarded as SPARK of the show. finally some justice for true singer and music.
Please let us update on her future events.
POONAM, we love very very very very much. hope here from you very soon.