Saregamapa

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• At 2007.09.08 09:11, Bagha said:

  Bapida..doesnt deserve to be on this show anymore…I hope ZEE doesn’t call him back….His support for mauli and that too quiting for her is attrocious !!…and imagine how Sumedha must have felt when Bapida offered to quit…

  And then there is another Joker HR.
  I want to tell HR that both Aneek and Mussarat sings 100 times better than him…and its a great pleasure listening to both of them sing rather than the routine rantings from HR…
  HR ..please spare Aneek and Mussrat..Aneek doesn’t need your promotion…He is simply class….and Don’t pass stupid coments on Mussrat..(i think HR seriously sees Mussarat as a big threat to his style of singing )..

  Aneek, Mussarat, Amanat …one of them shd win…and HR should quit like Bapida !!
  and ID pls stop giving 10 to everyone !..

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• At 2007.09.08 09:12, anon said:

  i refuse to watch this crappy episode.( going by senty’s review)

  one thing is clear… mussarat has gotten BAD songs to sing by the bander..

  the dude(HR) is sooo freakin insecure that he gives the best( most popular songs ) to chela # 1( ergo songs main hoon naa, benaas etc) , so that he shines.. then he overhypes the hell out of the performance that all music lovers wanna throw up..

  then he underplays one chela’s performance that one is left with a feeling of outrage that this crap is going on on national TV on what USED to be the best talent show on indian TV( in the sonu/shaan days)

  HR tujhe itni baddua’en milengi , tere chela kabhi yeh contest nahin jitega

  the oracle has spoken !

  PS- tallking about versatility.. Amanat is ATLEAST as versatile as topi wale bandar the chela..and ALWAYS puts his own spin on the song( ergo rasme ulfut ko nibhayeen). Aneek sings the songs straight up and hell yeah he has a lovely voice, but no individuality.. he is a great mimic..

  And while i was never a mussarat fan in the initial phase( red hair anyone?).. the ONLY songs i will remember after this show is over are his songs..
  ALL others wll be forgotten in a week( including overhyped aneek and raja)

  i am almost tempted to vote again,,although i know this program is totally fixed, why make money for this farcical program..

  I am hoping mussarat redeems himself on tnites show..

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• At 2007.09.08 09:26, Sumitro said:

  Dear ossama,

  If Hihesh feels Mussarat is going to get eliminated, it does not mean he wants Mussarat to be out or Himesh feels he deserves to be out. On the contrary he warned the public that they should not go by individual perfomance and promoted Mussarat by asking him to show his strong point (Sufi songs). So, in no way Mussarat is being Discriminated against.

  The most underrated contestant of SRGMP has been Harpreet, not Mussarat or Junaid.

  So, let’s clear our ‘galatfaimiyan’.

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• At 2007.09.08 09:37, ossama said:

  Dear Sumitro
  Thanks and o.k. i’ll clear all the galatfaimiyan its just that i get really emotional. But its just that first he use to say roti mile gi ye hoga and now its all over.
  But any ways may be you are right and i’m really very very emotional so may be i saw it with my eyes in the heart and not the eyes attached to brain. So i am relax.
  Take care and regards.

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• At 2007.09.08 09:44, Sam said:

  Monkey has changed sex and is interested in guys and who better to target thane Annek (both kissing each others Ass). Annek remember what happened to Vinit, think about that your are on path to disaster.

  We ppl here do we need to know what Monkey says about Mussarat?

  JUST VOTE VOTE FOR MUSSARAT SIMPLE AS THAT, ALSO ASK EVERYONE TO VOTE FOR MUSSARAT.

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• At 2007.09.08 09:46, asdf said:

  bappi da is a hypocrite

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• At 2007.09.08 09:55, basumatika said:

  Aah,what a perfect way to insult the music lover viewers by Bhappida that if Mooli goes TRP will go down!!!it means all of us were coming on this forum day in & out to see his lovely Moolibaby!Then what happens to poor sumedha?he has already publicly abondoned her & may be Aiditya should adopt her now!Though she came perfectly prepared in Japanese kimono to bid sayonara!
  My analysis for Gurus is like this…

  Bhappi—Drama Queen,childish,highly insecured,favoritism for own disciples!
  Vishal & shekhar–Perfect husband wife team.Vishal trying to take care of his delicate trophy wife who has recently acquired so much fame that doesn’t know how to handle it! that is why broke the record of longest stare without blink!No guts,sacrificed Jaunaid & harpreet for BD’s Mata!
  HR_–Topiwalebaba!Changed the topi bcse
  Laga Topime Daag!
  Enemy of own students! Cheap,cheap,cheap! promotion of Aneek & miserable let down for Musarat! Also,if by chance anyopne is going to vote Musarat,he takes care to pursuade them declaring himself,it was a bad performance!

  ID—-Jobless! Totally contented & satisfied as if has just eaten one full plate of Biryani & now nothing is needed to achieve in life.But atleast treats his disciples fairly,only should take back that comment on poonam & save her from -ve publicity.

  Zee,Pls,pls let that BD be gone & don’t accept him back in the show even if he begs on his knees!So many deserving contestants were sacrificed on the altar of Maulimata & BD ,then no one complained ,then why such childish behavior now?Get Lost!
  Don’t vote Aneek at any cost!

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• At 2007.09.08 10:13, SHAFQAT said:

  Finally Mauli is out which was awaited since long time. She did not have talent to reach to this point. She showed her” Adayain” and American style to use her “Item song ” type flat voice.It was even mentioned by Asha Deedi long ago and she advised her to select some other songs but she kept singing same kind of songs. She does not have flexibility in her voice which is necessary to learn music. I can’t understand why Buppy is pushing her forward. Poonam and Sumedha are much better singers than her.
  Mussarat is a different kind of singer who has knowledge of Sur Taal and control which nobody has without music.Even Aneek Dhar mentioned in his old episodes that he learned a lot from Raja and Mussarat.
  Mussarat stays or Goes but he is the only one of his style in this show.
  All four guys are almost same but Mussarat has Edge. Raja is great and he has lots of music knowledge well. Aneek and Amanat have great talent but not enough knowledge of sur and taal.
  I love all of them but it is fun to listen Mussarat Singing.

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• At 2007.09.08 10:17, Anonymous said:

  HR has been constantly giving Mussarat bad songs to make sure Mussarat is eliminated. How come, out of the hundreds of punjabi or classical songs, he couldn’t find a single song for Mussarat. He is underestimating Mussarat’s talent. If HR thinks that by downplaying Mussarat, he can make Aneek winner, then he is wrong.

  HR is not fit for the position of guru. I wish he quits like Bappida.

  If Mussarat is eliminated next week then we all Mussarat’s fan will start voting negative and make sure the winner is someone other than Aneek.

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• At 2007.09.08 10:20, i48998 said:

  Senty,

  Mussarat will not go because it isn’t time for him to go yet. It will be one of the girls. Look, Bappida already said he’s quiting, he knows his girls don’t stand a chance to be in the final, so he actually blurted out what his producers must have told him to keep in secret.

  It was certainly Mussarat’s worst performance, but I was happy to hear his Sanware again, it was well worth….the whole show!

  His mentor is clueless, no, brainless. He has now admitted that he is the one who gives him songs (then why does he do all the drama about song selections??). Himeshji, I know you have a huge fan base, but you probably doesn’t know how long it takes for them to evaporate.

  As for this worst episode of all, I think Zee has once again showed brains behind their strategy. Their show is hottest in the market, there are emotions being filled all around India, Pakistan and international market, they needed to cool it down a bit just before the grand finale episodes, hence they came up with such a stinker. You bet they will be coming back with a bang in a week.

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• At 2007.09.08 10:24, i48998 said:

  And for the very first time I enjoyed Indian Idol episode, yeh Adnan Sami really showed ‘em what kind of songs they should have been singing. Amit Paul, if you know what lies ahead then you know you are not a selected Indian Idol but you are! You know what I mean.

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• At 2007.09.08 10:44, Sam said:

  Aneek stands no chance with Amit Paul and Emon.

  Mussarat class of his own.

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• At 2007.09.08 11:05, senty said:

  @i48998
  I wish you had sensed the frustration in my post… my “Mussarat will go next” was meant to be a sarcastic dig at HimeshR…..

  Strategically Sumedha will NOT go next… remember Bappi da has left the show … “OMG !!”
  So after the drama to bring him back, Zee will have to keep Sumedha to keep Bappidha.
  Or, if Zee is smart, they might remove Sumedha, Bappidha, pura Josh gharana all together next week.

  Based on performance, I dont think Musarrat was that bad in the non-sufi song. Poonam will go. I didnt like Raja and Amanat’s show either. Sorry.

  For the first time I am having trouble picking even one good performance !! That too in such an advanced stage of the show…

  - Senty

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• At 2007.09.08 11:13, naveed said:

  CAN SOMBODY PLZ POST THE VIDEO OF SEP 7TH THIS IS THE ONLY SOURCE I CAN WATCH THIS PROGRAM

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• At 2007.09.08 11:30, mdoc73 said:

  vote for mussarat…he is the best…everybody else sings well…he touches ur heart…

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• At 2007.09.08 11:31, Sam said:

  I guess no one NOTICED one thing.

  After Mussarat was voted in and before he started singing — HOW COME TOPIWALA BANDAR HR say that i think you going to be out today??????

  People @ Zee are so stupid or senseless, no one dared to tell the BANDAR that Mussarat is voted in thats y he is standing there.

  this is TOTALLY FUCKED up.

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• At 2007.09.08 11:39, naveed said:

  Mussarat stays or Goes but he is the only one of his style in this show.
  All four guys are almost same but Mussarat has Edge. Raja is great and he has lots of music knowledge well. Aneek and Amanat have great talent but not enough knowledge of sur and taal.
  I love all of them but it is fun to listen Mussarat Singing

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• At 2007.09.08 12:01, deb said:

  Amanat and Aneek..Great singers!!!!I wish both of them compete in the finals…It will be a great show!!!!

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• At 2007.09.08 13:04, Subhrajit said:

  aneek is the best..keep it up annek.india proud of u..i have never seen such a versatile singer last 4-5 years.very good aneek..u deserve to be a nuber one..god bless u.

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• At 2007.09.08 13:28, Sriram said:

  Actually after listening to Saaware sung by Mussarrat, I don’t consider him as a contestant anymore. Mussarrat is of a much much higher league. He is just so humble, I really pity him that even after having such loads of talent he has to depend on stupid votes for this contest.

  He belongs to the likes of great Sufi singers that hold shows all by themselves, where audiences having immense music knowledge would listen to him with awe, tears in eyes, and goose bumps.

  Even though SAREGAMAPA has been the best talent hunt show in India, I think Mussasarat’s mere presence has honored this platform more than anything else.

  For such a talented singer, even saying he is a good singer is effrontery, its like saying Nusrat Fateh Khan is a good singer. When people compliment Mussarrat for his singing, anyone in his place would think, “Duh!”, but he is very humble.

  Just like ID said, he is not bothered about votes, he is just doing his job, just singing his best and thats what will bring him up in life.

  I know I like Aneek’s singing also, and his versatility but for someone of Mussarrat’s caliber, we should not expect him to be versatile. Mussarrat is beyond all the needs of versatility, X factor, or whatever it is that you need to be for a Bollywood celebrity. Mussarrat does not belong to that category at all. We should just request him to sing Sufi songs, and keep listening and listening and listening.

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• At 2007.09.08 13:40, senty said:

  @sriram

  I loved your post honoring Musarrat.

  “
  Even though SAREGAMAPA has been the best talent hunt show in India, I think Mussasarat’s mere presence has honored this platform more than anything else.
  “

  Very well said !!

  - Senty

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• At 2007.09.08 13:53, anon said:

  great comments sweety and sriram

  whats the point of verstality when the versatile ones do not have anything jo dil ko chu de..

  the best singer imho is someone whose singing creates an effect in the listener.. almost like a visceral response.. mussarat has done that

  i also liked junaid for a similar quality, he sang with such feeling ( low notes be damned !), especially the sad songs, that he left an impact on me

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• At 2007.09.08 15:25, P said:

  @ everyone who loves Mussarat (including me), here is my humble opinion and please let me say again that it’s just my personal opinion and not an expert comment.

  Mussarat is a great sufi singer and absolutely no one can argue that. But isn’t it sad that in a competition where in we are looking for a great singer who can sing all kinds of songs, he has to come in order to get recognised?

  He should be recognised outside of this platform but in the competition (if you look at the history of Saregamapa till today) we need to make sure that people can sing all kinds of songs, otherwise I would humbly suggest that they make this a competition wherein they have various winners in different categories. The reason why people are a huge fan of likes of Mohd. Rafi, Lata, Asha and various other artists is that you give them a fast number, a comedy number, a sad song, a classical song or club songs and they can do justice to the song. I feel that this competition is about getting someone like that. I agree that this year not many people have variety and they have been so good that you feel oh my God, what singers but then people like Amanat and Poonam are trying to sing variety of songs so here is the big question, should you have a saregamapa winner who can only sing in one genre but sings it excellent, or would have someone who can sing variety of songs but are very good and not excellent.

  Now I think the choice is everybody’s. It’s just confusing to know what exactly is this programme trying to get in a winner. Please Mussarat lovers don’t feel bad as I am one of the lovers myself. I just feel this is Saregamapa and not Indian Idol or Other speciality singing shows. Otherwise please change the show rules and make categorised winners as I feel this confusion is like comparing Nusarat fateh Ali Khan with someone like Mohd Rafi and it’s not nice.

  Also people who say he has excellent classical base, let me just say that, then the judge of this competition should not be public or the four gurus out of which no one seems to know much, but someone like Pandit Jasaraj, Pandit Bhimsen Joshi, Lata Mangeshkar, Shubha Mudgal, Rahat Fateh Ali Khan, Ghulam Ali, Asha Bhosle as they are better judges of this who can then give them pointers on how they can improve. Why do you think Asha said that please let him sing other songs so that he becomes a varsatile singer instead of restricting himself in this competition? I feel that Himesh is restricting him so much instead of letting him grow as a singer. Also whats the point of him saying in the last episode, please don’t consider his today’s performance which wasnt his best. I mean this way, no singer should go out of this competition as their Gurus, keep on saying please don’t consider a particular bad performance. Now that we are down to Final 6, who should public eliminate if not someone whose performance for that day is not upto the mark. Because all the contestnats who have come so far, have certain level of talent that they have proved.

  As Vijay said earlier, if Mussarat’s base is strong he could have sung Mannade’s Lapak Jhapak tu Aare badarawa or Rafi’s Sar jo tera takaraye in comedy theme. Why choose Remo’s song, and then say please think as if this song is sung by Nusaratji.

  I personally feel that Mussarat is a much better singer than what we have seen but it’s a ploy from Zee and Himesh to restrict his performance. Don’t we all know that they have already chosen a winner, no matter what the votes say. Otherwise why would someone like Mauli stay till Final 7. Can you really believe that there are so many people who vote for her when in this blog we have come across more people who know she is not a great singer?

  @ Senty, thanks for your reply, I also feel Kabhi is a gazal but couldnt see a shayar’s name in it anywhere.

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• At 2007.09.08 16:08, anon said:

  @ P

  i think you must be a new fan of SRGMP

  otherwise u sld have known that the format of the program was HEAVILY skewed to classical music and ghazals..

  as others have pointed out, nowhere does it say in the rules that SRGMP is to search for the next plyback singer..

  It is to select the best singer and according to me, that is someone who has a SOLID grounding in classical music and can utilize that training in any genre( someone like Sonu or shreya), and NOT the other way around i.e someone who can sing light halke phulke bollywood type songs but is a zero when it comes to classical based songs.

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• At 2007.09.08 16:10, anon said:

  also @ p the judges used to be lumiaries like zakr hussain, MS subblaksmi, ghulam ali and others of that caliber

  People like topi walabandar and cross dresser she-male bappi are an insult to the history and tradition of SRGMP

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• At 2007.09.08 16:21, TB said:

  ok ok… Mauli is out…. somebody pinch me as i think this was all a dream.. ….. hold on…it isnt ..woohhhhhooooooooo…

  thank you all voters,you have finally opened your ears and listened to the bad singer (Mauli).

  Ok ok, Mauli did sing 2/3 songs well: Mayya Mayya, Ali More Angana and Namak (in Laloo episode)…but the majority of the time she sang baaadly…and what was worse is that other worthy singers were being eliminated bcos of her.

  ….and please somebody tell me what drugs BD is on? “Sa re ga ma pa, i am quitting” …huh?…. he must be the only person to have liked mauli’s singing…and where is his support for sumedha?…does she not have any value?….does BD feel she will be eliminated next week? surely he should now focus on making Sumedha sing better?….but what does he say “im quitting” :-s…i think the line….

  “Mere paas Mauli hai” is true BD lol… “Mauli aapke paas hi aarahi hai” lol…usko ghar ley jao…. lol

  i see another ID action by BD when he wanted to walk out…rememeber when Nihira was voted out in challenge 2005 (wrongly..as she WAS a very good singer) and ID RIGHTLY left sa re ga ma pa as that WAS an injustice…..but BD, come on …wake up… Mauli is no Shakira….and secondly….she ISNT that famous…if she was she wouldnt be last in voting.

  Credit to Mauli for taking her elimination well though.

  Poonam out of the women is the best and more importanly along with Amanat and Aneek, has been singing consistantly. my only concern with her is that the comments made by the guru’s may make the puclic think negative about her.

  Out of the guys, this is the order i see it finishing:

  1. Raja
  2. Aneek
  3. Amanat.
  4. Musarat.

  and why? well….Raja has the love of the public, Aneek may suffer from this never ending “love story”, Amanat for his consistency but may fade….and Musarrat 4th bcos he may struggle to sing any other artists songs other than the Late Nusrat ji’s.

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• At 2007.09.08 16:29, P said:

  @anon, I have been reading your comments for a long time and hence respect your opinions. I agree with your second comment but regarding the first one, let me tell you that Sonu didn’t have classical training when he became a singer. He then learnt it in the later stage but as you rightly said, a good singer needs to be someone who can sing in any genre. Would you call Talat, Rafi, Mukesh, K.L Saigal, Kishor, Lata, Asha great? Because these singers over the years have proven that they can sing any song whether its classical or halke phulke.

  It’s a difficult comparison as you can’t compare Lata and Kishori Amonkar in the same category as Lata is great in every category but might not be as proficient as Kishori Amonkar when it comes to classical singing. You can not term MS Subalakshi less than Lata but you certainly can’t say Lata is inferior to her.

  SP Balasubramaniam has had no classical training, but his songs in the south has such high classical base (Exa Shankarabharanam movie songs) that it’s very wrong to say that a classical singer is better than a non-classical one.

  As far as being a play back singer, I think Mussarat will be taken for any sufi singing no matter what but shouldn’t the winner be someone who can sing in any genre like the ones you mentioned otherwise why the competition and then why not have the rules that everyone has classical background as it’s unfair to compare someone with classical background with non classical one. I am taking an example of Amanat here as he has selected a variety of quality songs like Rasme Ulfat, Ae Ajanabi and I just feel that a classical singer like Mussarat should have sung different classical songs in different genre than just restricting himself to sufi singing.

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• At 2007.09.08 16:37, P said:

  @TB, I completely agree with your comment regarding Bappi da. Whats with him? So is he trying to show that he doesnt know the rules that every week someone will be eliminated or he really is on drugs to think Mauli is the winner of this year’s srgmp? And poor Sumedha, she doesn’t get anyone’s support no matter how good she sings. And why hasn’t Bhappi quitted the show before as surely other participants from his group must have been eliminated before. Why such a krupa to Mauli mata (as Vijay calls her) I wonder. This year’s show is becoming a farce so much so that I feel that they should just cancel it. They eliminate someone then they try to call them back. Come on guys, its a competition in which someone will lose and someone will win whether we like it or not so please get it in your head that the winner is only one person. If you keep on calling everyone back with such dramas then it would take us years to decide this years winner, ha ha ha or may be there will be 100s of winners of this years competition or at least 7 as they are left now.

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• At 2007.09.08 16:45, P said:

  @Priti

  Agree with your comments above. Will write in more detail later. BTW “Mauli Mata” was a name suggested by Basumatika.

  @To all.

  It seems Mauli may be recalled, it has been heard Bappida gave them a ultimatum.

  Bappida:”Agar Mauli,vapas nahi aaya, to mein apna Upar ka kapra nikal ke show pe baithunga”. “Phir aap Khana bhi nahi kha paoge”.

  Bappida: “Agar Sumedha eliminate hogayi, to main “niche” ka kapda utarunga”.

  After this Zee is seriously considering doing something and in an internally held meeting they have got a brainwave. They are going to hold a
  SMS poll (More money) asking callers , if they prefer a “Nanga Bappi” or a “Croaker Mauli-mata”.

  Hai- Ab kya kare. Poor audience.

  Looks like Bappida is going to show us his “Six Flabs”.

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• At 2007.09.08 16:51, P said:

  Sorry guys, its not @ Priti in my last comment but @ TB and I corrected myself when I said that Mauli mata was name suggested by Basumatika and not Vijay. Its been a long day with my 2 1/2 year old so my mind is juggling names.

  Priti

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• At 2007.09.08 21:11, Rekha said:

  @Sam
  I also noticed and was wondering why Himeash was telling Mussarat before singing that he is going to be eliminated today.????

  And what is this nonsense of Aneek working HARD. As a contestant you are suppose to work hard.

  @Sriram
  I would like to join you in honouring Mussarat. If he is to give a performance today, I will be the first one to buy the ticket.

  @anon
  I agree with you that these judges are THIRD CLASS especially Himesh and Bappi da. Absoultely, they are no match to Zakir Hussain and Gulam Ali.

  Himesh is making way for Aneek by 1) downplaying Mussarat’s ability
  2) pointing out faults in Raja’s singing

  If Mussarat and Raja are eliminated then please PEOPLE make sure that Aneek NEVER WINS.

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• At 2007.09.08 22:44, majit23 said:

  hey guys did you watch today show raja ,poonam and amanat performing excellent but i don’t belive it what’s going on HR is a ass””hole he shold fuc””him self he is a basted i don’t belive the way he talk to raja and what’s wrong with other judges how com they gave raja low mark he always sang excellent. I hate that asshole HR he think he is a best singer how dare he said raja todays performing is not good and he said to raja you should sing like that and he start singing in his voice what the fuc”””he is doing he think he is a best singer in a whole world f”’of HR i hate you. If you guys notic that in each epasoid he have to open his uglly mouth and heart’s someones filling why he is doing that why he can shut his mouth and sit quite HR what are you doing don’t you realise you hearting peoples filling if you keep doing this belive me the hole world going to hate you don’t you f””’do that again

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• At 2007.09.08 23:15, Anonymous said:

  @Sriram

  I would also like to join u in honouring Mussarat.

  @P

  Can you show me where is it written in SRGMP rules that they r looking for a singer who can sing in all genres. If you watched Saregama(hosted by Sonu & shaan some years back), you would have known how much imphasis was given on classical singing. All the winners & participants had good classical base. And the judging standards were very high with judges like Ghulam Ali, Bhimsen Joshi, Zakir Hussain, Lataji etc.

  I think the present bunch of judges except ID shd be removed as they have no idea abt classical singing themselves.

  And @P for ur info: Sonu had classical base b4 he began his career.

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• At 2007.09.09 06:12, sweety said:

  Sriram and Anon,
  I totally agree with your comments in saying that Musarrat is of a much much higher league than merely being a contestant of this show. The ease with which he performs the most difficult songs of Nusrat Ji and his control over voice even in high notes has already declared him a true winner of millions and millions of hearts. Musarrat fans do not care whether he wins this contest or someone else, but the only thing we cannot bear is the injustice being done by a mentor and that too with a person, who is so talented, yet so humble at heart and so simple in his behaviour. I strongly feel that like some Cinema awards, we must have a critics choice award in the Saregamapa also and I am ready to bet with anyone, the critics choice will be none other than Musarrat.
  I have read the comments of other Musarrat fans and am happy that there are true music lovers, who value quality in music.

  Everyone Please vote for Musarrat if you want to enjoy some more performances of this great singer.

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• At 2007.09.09 06:29, TB said:

  @sweety

  i agree that HR s not helping Musarrat’s chances of progressing. the way i see it is i feel HR thinks that Musarrat may infact be a threat to his “love child”..aneek. If musarrat stays then perhaps the public may vote out aneek?…why would a guru tell the public that “yeh iksa type ka ghana nahin hai par aghar nusrat ji yeh ghatay to aisa hota”…huh?…infact thats an insult to the late nusrat ji to think he would sing such songs.

  HR wake up and realise that this “love story” got vineet no where and the same will happen to Aneek too. I for one hope that Raja/Poonam wins it as they are the only contestants who havent let the stardom get to their heads.

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• At 2007.09.09 06:56, Debjit said:

  come on guys ….. can Mussarat sing different type of songs? This is True. He is not a versatile singer. ANEEK & AMANAT are versatile singer. Mussarat is a sterio type singer. he can sing only SUFI type songs.

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• At 2007.09.09 07:22, P said:

  @Anonymous, please know that I am one of the Mussarat singing fans too.

  Also if you could kindly answer two questions for me, if there were Sonu and Mussarat competing, who would your vote go for and why?

  And if Mussarat and Kishore Kumar were final two, who would you vote for and why.

  I will await your response…

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• At 2007.09.09 07:25, P said:

  @TB, I completely agree with you there. Himesh certainly has other ideas and hence is not only restricting Mussarat in singing one kind of songs but also is making a joke by saying please think as if Nusaratji is singing this song. Why would anyone say that?

  I feel that the gurus in this programme are favoring one over the other (exa Bhappi favoring Mauli over Sumedha, Himesh favoring Aneek over Mussarat) Come on guys, let everyone do their best and may the best person win, why meddle in these things? As a guru, your only job is to train and improve the chances of your contestants to win and make them into a better singer by giving them pointers, so please try and stick to that and that only.

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• At 2007.09.09 09:52, Sumitro said:

  For your information (to anon, sriram especially), as Mussarat says himself @saregamapa.rediff.com

  Mussarat doesn’t have any formal training in music.

  I am an admirer of Mussarat’s singing myself. My point is in-born talent is more important than classical training, it can only polish one’s singing ability.

  So, don’t pretend to be a true music connoisseur just by chanting “classical” “classical” all the time.
  Mussarat only vindicates my argument.

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• At 2007.09.09 09:54, anon said:

  @ p

  thanks for comments

  firstly- you sld know that sonu nigam was a trained classical singer before he came into bollywood . any fan of sonu’s knows that and i count myself as one of them

  if i had to choose between a versatile mimic and a genre singer who always adds his spin to the song( watch saanware and tere binnahin lagda or even last nites performance- they are different from the original)then i wld choose the latter..

  between sonu and mussarat, i wld choose sonu- i love his voice and his classical base and sur tal is v v solid..

  if aneek comes out with sonu covers and mussarat comes out with NFAK covers- who wld you choose? for me the answer is crystal clear

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• At 2007.09.09 09:57, anon said:

  @ sumitro

  if mussarat sings like he does without classical training, i am in awe of what the guy will do with training..

  amaazing.. my respect for his singing has only gone up thousand fold..

  thanks so much for giving us this nugget of information about this amazing singer

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• At 2007.09.09 10:42, P said:

  @anon, I am a die hard fan of sonu too so we think alike in that respect but my friend please know that Sonu wasn’t trained till he was a host at saregamapa. I had read his interview in Sunday Review a long back but just to prove my point here is the link to prove what I have just said:

  http://bollywoodzone.wetpaint.com/page/SONU+NIGAM?t=anon

  If you check out the second last paragraph you will see that he started his training when he met Ghulam Mustafa Khan as one of the jundges on saregamapa. Can you believe all the wonderful songs that he has sung before that from an untrained singer? Well Sonu proves it to the world that all you need is talent and willingness to work hard to become successful.

  @ Sumitro, I completely agree with you, talent goes a long way.

  @anon, So now that you know Mussarat also doesn’t have classical training, what would say about your opinion about a good singer? As you only believe that a good singer is the one who has classical background? Well my friend, I just gave you examples of 3 great singers (Sonu, SP Balasubramaniam and Kishore Kumar) who without classical training not only became great singers but also hugely successful.

  That is why I appreciate contestants like Amanat and Poonam who are trying to sing in different genre and hence improving day by day in being good singers.

  So please considering all this understand my point about Mussarat restricting himself by only singing Nusaratji’s songs. I rest my case, a good singer should have talent and should be able to sing in any genre. Rest all is surely a plus but not a requisite.

  Being a singer myself (even though not a professional one), I can certainly say that a singer should be able to attempt different style of singing. Knowing Mussarat has talent means he can do so if he tried but there is no point in singing in Nusaratji’s style while singing Remo’s song. Take Manna de’s example, he was heavily classically based singer who gave hits like zindagi kaisi hai paheli, pyar hua ikrar hua, ae meri etc. and hence proving that one can be classically based but still be versatile (just in case if Mussarat was from a classical background, this would have been my point.)

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• At 2007.09.09 11:06, P said:

  @anon, finally music is a form of an art in which talent and training go hand in hand. A true talent can
  certainly survive without the training but training alone can’t produce good talent. Many great singers (mentioned
  in my earlier response) have proved this.

  Take an example of a great classically trained singer like Manna De. He not only sang heavily classically based
  songs but also could sing other songs like zindagi kaisi hai paheli, pyar hua ikrar hua, ae meri zoharajabi etc.
  So this proves that having a strong classical background he was still versatile to sing halke phulke songs.

  Having lived in UK and USA, I have come across many Indians who force their children to take classical vocal
  training. And I have been to lots of such performances wherein the singers couldn’t do any justice to the songs at
  all, inspite the years of best classical training (Exa. Pandit Jasaraj camps)

  On the other hand, I have come across children who grow up listening to their parents sing or listen to music
  (any kind) regularly and can sing even the difficult of the songs to their best abilities.

  Please know that I am not against classical training in singers but a talented singer with classical training can
  be compared with a polished diamond whose true qualities have come out. But a talented singer without any training
  is still a diamond, no less.

  Priti

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• At 2007.09.09 11:16, anon said:

  @ p

  thanks for links( havent read it yet)

  but this link seems to indicate that he was classically trained earlier?

  http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:mzk6VRAsJX8J:cinemasangeet.com/cinema/articles/%3Fa%3D38+sonu+nigam+classical&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=22&gl=us

  anyhoo, i guess the point I am making is that-IF a singer is able to demonstrate expertise in sur taal mukhras antaras (and other classicalese) *I* would consider him to be a superior singer to someone who does light music

  This is irrespective of their training – altho i find it amazing that sonu could sing the classical based rafi songs( man tarpat hari darshan, radhike tune bansari bajai) without any training..

  likewise with mussarat- it is amazing that he does those things he does without being trained.. certainly aweinspiring

  likewise with SPB .. he is amazing at classical based songs

  Re kishore da- i think it is unfair to compare ANYONE in a nationally televised TV talent show with someone like him ( or comparing anyone to Rafi saab, lata bai or asha tai)

  If one has been a giant of the musical world for 5 decades..they get a pass from comparisons with mere mortals in a TV show.

  i love manna deys classical songs, and i think they are very popular.

  Your point about mussarats non verstatility is well taken..he cannot sing all kinds of songs.. but isnt that true for all of them. I cant see anyone on the show who can sing Rafi/kishore/mukesh/hemant/talat equally well.. can you?? ( or lata/asha/geeta dutt for the girls)

  then how do you judge who is good??

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• At 2007.09.09 12:26, P said:

  @anon, thanks for the reply. And about how to judge them, well now that we have people that we have
  in the competition, we are going to judge from amongst them who is winner so in that Mussarat lacks versatality.

  Poonam has sung:

  Lata-vande mataram (which I think was one of the best performance in saregamapa)

  Asha-Hungama ho gaya (in front of Asha to sing her song and get a comment from her saying you would become
  a playback singer, I think its great for anyone)

  Jaspinder Narula-Tare hai barati (just check out the power of thorow of voice)

  K.K.-Tadap tadap ke (try singing this (male song to be sung by female)song and you would know what I am saying
  about a song as volatile with emotions and variety of pitch)

  Richa Sharma- Mahi ve ( I am not saying this is her best performance but again the song is a duet and she has
  made an attempt)

  Kavita Krishnamurthy- Hamesha tumko chaha

  Alka Yagnik-Sanam mere Humraz

  Sunidhi-Baras ja ae badal

  Kshitij and Shilpa Rao-Tose naina lage piya saware (check out the classical notes in the song and low-high notes)

  (I think this certainly qualifies for a versatality in a singer and she is good-amongst the girls)

  Amanat has sung:

  Lata: Rasme ulfat ko nibhaye (come on, not a joke to sing a Lata’s song in a male voice)

  Rafi-Parda hai parda

  Parveen sultana-Hamein tumse pyar kitna(classical based)

  Hariharan-jhoka hawaka aajbhi (check this out, just great)

  Adnana Sami-Kabhi to najar milao

  Kailash Kher-Ya rabba

  Udit narayan-Ae Ajanabi and Tu cheez badi hai

  Shafkat Amanat Ali-Mitwa(listen to this one too-not best but still too good), mora saiya mose bole na

  Hariharan- Kuch mere dil ne kaha

  Sonu Nigam-Sine se ye dil

  Mukesh-Jane kaha gaye woh din

  Abhijit/kumar sanu-Tum dil ki dhadkan mein

  (I mean if this is not good enough then I don’t know what is…If this is a competition and if we are with the
  contestants that we have, I support these two for their efforts, versatality, quality-just see how they have
  improved over the weeks…)

  At the end, I just want to say that all the singers that are left now are all excellent. I love all of them.
  They all deserve to be successful in music so let anyone win as for me all of them are good, but please don’t
  say that Mussarat’s non-versatality is true for everyone as that’s certainly not the case from their chosen songs
  above.

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• At 2007.09.09 13:02, anon said:

  @p

  i completely agree that amanat and poonam have attempted the most variety of songs.. but I think the results were mixed, i dont think they excelled in all the songs.. def some efforts were mediocre

  poonam sometimes has the tendency to shreik in the high notes

  so the mere fact that a singer attempts different types of songs doesnt make them “versatile” if they are mediocre in some of them

  and then there is the X factor- which a singer brings to a song which makes it memorable.. so far i have found it in the following songs:

  1. poonam- vandematram , tadap tadap and tose naina lage

  2. mussarat- sanware and tere bin nahin lagda

  3. amanat-none

  4. raja- none

  5. aneek-none

  6. sumedha- none

  i understand this is just my personal preference..

  so lets agree to disagree ok?

  and yes ALL the singers are wonderful one way or the other

  If only the judges didnt play politics, one could be free to choose a singer based strictly on merit.

  as it is, the field has been so tainted by Zee and the gurus, that it is hard to separate your feeling for the singer from any percieved unfair favoritism of victimization towards them.

  for eg., aneek was my favorite till about the time after the salman episode.. Then the overhype machine by HR started and you start wondering why this blatant favoritism.. i mean he aint THAT much better than anyone else..

  mussarat i pretty much was indifferent to till saanware, that changed everything..He has become an underdog for me after HR went on his national aneek ass kissing spree

  amanat i have always found a technially excellent singer, missing the X factor..

  I loved Raja when he was being brought back into the competition and then he became this monster who cldnt score less than 10′s however mediocre the performance..i mean come on! and i also found him a little insincere in his attitude, like he seemed very politician like in his attempts to get votes

  poonam , has been my favorite from the get go.. she has faltered in some songs, but she seems to sing difficult songs with ease .
  I got sick of ID playing up the mother tho

  sumedha- sings in one tone and one kind of song.. pleasant enough but not a powerhouse “singer” by any stretch of the imagination

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• At 2007.09.09 13:37, Vijay said:

  You people seem to be very keen music lovers. I have reading your exchanges
  for the past hour and finally when it has made some sense, I just want to add my 2 pence.

  –Sonu & Classical Background -

  I have reviewed both the links and anon’s links had some comments about “Lata & Asha” which I dont think
  Sonu might have made.But it seems in Priti’s link, Sonu clearly mentions that “”I’ve done most of my playback singing as an untrained singer”

  Classical or not – Sonu rocks in most genre’s he’s tried.

  —Mussarat vs Amanat & Poonam – Verstality.

  Priti’s explanation shows, that both Amanat & Poonam have sung different songs. But sadly, that cannot be
  said about Mussarat.

  If in a competition, they have a comedy round (as we had the other day), Mussarat really failed very badly. So from
  a competition point of view, this would be rated as a failure.But again as Asrani said “Even NFA-saab would have refused to sing in this category”.
  But if the other contestants have managed to do better then they go forward.

  I am not a big NFA follower, hence I don’t know his collection. But if tomorrow the show has a “Duet round” or a “Ghazal”
  round,if NFA-saab has no duets or has not sung ghazals, would Mussarat refuse from singing. This I feel is not
  correct in a competition.

  If tomorrow, Someone participates in a Cross country race which involves 2 miles of swimming, If a runner cannot swim, However
  good a runner they are, they have lost the race.

  The format of the show itself is flawed, If elimination was based on a round basis, then we wouldn’t be having this discussion.

  It is difficult to compare 2 singers, unless they sing in the same genre,Someone correct me if I am wrong, But isn’t it why “Jugalbandhi’s” originated.

  To end on a Humorous note ==

  The best part of yesterdays show :

  Bappida – Mauli, Tumhare liye “Good News” hey.

  I thought the next line would be a typical bollywood dialogue “Mein tumhare bacche ka baap banne wala hoo”.

  Bappida, please think before you talk and don’t put pauses in unwanted places.

  Also when you sung ” Chahiye THora pyaar”. Aap ka diction kuch “Unees-Bees tha”. Thora hai ya thoda.

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• At 2007.09.09 14:01, P said:

  @Vijay, I agree with you with all of what you say.

  @anon, yes friend, lets agree to disagree here as I don’t see us seeing eye to eye on this one. But that’s good as this is what makes the blog more interesting.

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• At 2007.09.09 18:17, deb said:

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9lbnCHvibA

  Have a look at this guysssss….its hilarious.

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• At 2008.06.08 13:01, Zain jaffri said:

  Mouli g u r such realy good singer i love u r sexy girl kya ap mjhe kis karo gee or amanat k saath kya chakar tha apka janu bolo duniya walo parhna lazmi a m from pakistan

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